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Five Star Reviews:

69%
Great fountain pen!
July 13, 2017
The Lamy Safari is a great everyday fountain pen!I bought it with the Lamy Refill Converter Lamy Refill Converter (Z24) and the Lamy Black Inkwell Lamy Bottled Ink 50ml with Blotting Paper-Black (LT52BK).It worked right out of the box, no issues at all!! It feels pretty nice in my hands and writes well.No skipping, dripping or mess. The converter popped right in, it has notches that you slide it in to.I will definitely be picking up a few more!Just a thought, they really should include the refill converter for free!
When It's Right, it's Right
March 30, 2017
For years I ignored these very hot-selling pens. I thought they looked a bit 80s and cheap. But I finally got to try one and it was an instant bond. The grip is either going to work for you or against you. For me, it was absolute perfection. I can write with a Safari or an Al-Star all day and not get fatigued.

For others, it might feel like you are being forced to hold the pen in a foreign position and will feel as wrong as brushing your teeth with your wrong hand. But I think if you have a fairly "traditional" pen grip, you will probably absolutely "lock in" to this very light and balanced tool like it's an extension of your body.

The only warning I would leave you with is this: These pens are addictive. Being affordable and having every color including clear (the "Vista") you'll soon be looking at Amazon and thinking, "Oh! I don't have THAT color yet!"
Extremely Reliable & Superb Bargain
February 27, 2017
This is as good as you can get for the price. I have used this pen along with comparable ones from Pilot and a slightly more high-end pen from Parker. Various tidbits of information from my use have been included below.

DESIGN & CONSTRUCTION:
This pen has become my daily driver and is leagues ahead of the competition in terms of reliability. The shape of the pen encourages proper grip (calligrapher's grip enthusiasts will enjoy it for sure). The construction of the pen is sturdy enough that I have had no issues after months of use. I have had issues with pens around this price point of the nibs becoming loose and making a mess of the ink flow. I'm happy to say that this issue has not occurred on the Lamy. A friend of mine who has the same pen has had his clip break off after months of extensive use, so I would be careful not to overly exert the clip if you can avoid it. The nib is not nearly as "fine" as one expects, so this should be taken into account and an extra-fine should be purchased if you absolutely must have finer penmanship.

INK:
Using a converter is easy enough, but I find myself using Lamy cartridges instead, which are inexpensive enough to buy in bulk and have them last a while. The cartridge doesn't carry a tremendous amount of ink so spares should always be kept on hand.

CONCLUSION:
As an entry level pen I can think of nothing better, and for those of you who want to try fountain pens before committing to a more ostentatious purchase, this is well worth the cost. My pilot and parker are gathering dust because I simply don't have the heart to go back to them after becoming accustomed to the positive nuances that this pen brings to the table, and indeed the paper.
Excellent lightweight cartridge fountain pen
December 10, 2016
This has proven to be a great pen. I am an officer in the US Army. I love to write with a fountain pen. However, my ink draw Jinhao is a little too fancy for carry and use with a military uniform. Additionally, I don't want to keep a jar of ink at the desk in my office. I bought this pen because it is a flat black (what we call subdued) that is more appropriate for daily military use. It is of more of a plastic material which makes it more durable against impacts. The cartridge swap out is quick, easy and clean. It writes just as well as my Jinhao. It is very light weight and I don't notice it when clipped inside my cargo pocket. I've already purchase one to give as a gift to my Sergeant Major who grew up in Germany and recommended Lamy to me when he saw that I carried an overly elegant Jinhao.
Safe Buy and Truly Pleasurable Writing Experience
November 5, 2016
I've had much costlier pens, none of them compare to this. This pen is butter smooth and very reliable. It never leaks, and in this charcoal black it looks absolutely stunning. Did I mention that it absolutely glides over paper? I really can't say enough how remarkable this pen is. But maybe these attached pictures will help a bit. At this price point you aren't really concerned if you lose it (except perhaps you are so finicky that you worry about losing so fine a nib). I don't see the point of ever buying a pricier pen. This pen is everything. But (and this is truly a ridiculous "but") if I had one gripe it would have to be weight. The pen is light and sturdy. A workhorse for daily use, not a thing of art (though, golly, it is beautiful). As I said, this "but" is a stretch -- this is an excellent pen.

Caveat: I have owned costlier pens, though not as costly as the eye-popping numbers one sees sometimes for fountain pens. Some may reasonably argue that I have not covered the range, and so I cannot really 'benchmark' the performance of this pen relative to more expensive ones. True, but, on an absolute basis, this is an exceptional pen. Don't buy a costlier pen if you haven't tried this first to know what a great writing instrument feels like.
39%
Best Looking Pen I've Ever Seen! It's so hard to put it down because it feels so good in my hand!
November 11, 2017
This pen is amazing! I can't believe the price is this low, considering the high price of comparable tactical pens($100+) that don't look or feel as good as the Boker+ CID! I've had this pen for about a year now and its still in great condition, and I'm still using the original ink cartridge even though I've seen a ton of reviews saying it ran out very quickly. Great seller, package came super quick! I LOVE this pen!
Five Stars
April 17, 2017
Great pen! Everything as described
I really enjoy the pen
March 12, 2017
I really enjoy the pen. Nicely weighted and feels good in my hand. I only with the Ink cartridge was bigger, and a more fine tip. Other than that, it's still awesome.
Very nice pen. Had a few different edc pens and ...
January 14, 2017
Very nice pen. Had a few different edc pens and I've always liked a clicky type but the bolt action intrigued me. This thing is great, takes a bit getting used to action and a bit tight for the first few clicks but it's amazing now. So light weight, great size for edc, and built in clip is solid. The cap likes to unscrew so keep an eye on it but it's worth it to me
Fantastic metal pen. Not too tactical, can make it past TSA security.
March 12, 2015
Use it every day. Taken lots of abuse.I would recommend swapping out the 0.7 ink system with a 0.5 variant. Refills are available on amazon. Called LAMY refills. I put some paracord through the hole on the end and made a loop. I spin it around my finger consistently as a nervous tick of sorts and eventually with the 0.7, the ink flies all over the place.
So much fun
June 8, 2014
This is not a zip-gun. The product name may sound like it is, but it's not. It does not fire projectiles. I've tried. That would take an incredibly strong spring. The spring inside is already very thick and makes the action a but stiff. I replaced it with a thinner spring and now it works perfectly. The machining is incredibly well done and precise. Everything matches up. The only seam is in the very tip where it screws off to replace the ink, and it is hardly noticeable. The clip is the first distinct feature on this pen. It is not stamped and soldered on. It is not connected with screws or a cap. It is completely carved and integrated into the pen, hence "CID" (Clip Integrated Design). It has no tension. It does not lay against the pen body. It is an open space. It is good for people who are into the tactical design and will likely be wearing cargo pants or jeans- any thick material. Do not try carrying this in a paper-thin silk shirt-pocket. It will not stay still. For the places it will stay, it works excellently. The clip does not stick out, so what keeps the pen from rolling? That is the second distinct feature. The pen does not click, or twist. There is a bolt in it like that of a rifle. You slide it down and to the side for it to lock in place, and there you have a pen. No gears or weird mechanisms like a click or twist pen than can jam- just a spring and a bolt. It's very fun to play with, snapping it open and closed. It is easy to use one-handed. The pen being aluminum, it is light. This is not your ordinary bunker-buster of a tactical pen. It is not half an inch thick- though close. It is for people who like thick and heavy pens that aren't TOO thick and heavy. It's just right. It's short, 5.5 inches, so not unbalanced, and comfortable to write with. The machined lines in the body are great for grip. The O-ring in the tip for unscrewing is just slightly too thin- the tip will sometimes unscrew if writing for an extended period of time. Bigger O-ring, problem solved. The knob on the bolt unscrews as well so you can take out the mechanism and see how it works, and is easy to put back in, but requires precision. I don't recommend it unless you're cleaning or oiling it, like a gun bolt. The ink is nothing special. The refill is, yes, very short, but it is also about 3 times as THICK as other refills, and so lasts just about the same. I still have the ink that came with the pen and have not yet bought any LAMY-22 refills, so I can't say how those work with the pen. The aluminum body does occasionally get scratched up, but the black coating is very durable. For those who want just a bit more, there is a titanium version for around $80. Because of the O-ring and spring fix, I would give this a 4/5 because at this price, that should not be a problem- but it is just such a great pen and "toy" otherwise that it still deserves a 5/5.

Four Star Reviews:

15%
Great design and feel; ran out of ink quickly
March 17, 2017
Loved carrying and using this while it had ink in it. The texture, color, and feel is excellent. It's really my first fountain pen though, and I guess I wasn't aware of how fast the ink runs out. After a very small amount of writing (like less than a single 8.5x11 page), it was stone dry. I'm not sure if this is typical of fountain pens, or just the Lamy cartridge, or what; I haven't purchased any more cartridges yet; have been carrying my Space Pen and Zebra F705 meanwhile.
great first fountain pen
March 10, 2017
My first real fountain pen. I've tried some disposable ones and really liked them so I thought I would try this as a starter. It feels very nice and smooth. I had a little difficulty getting used to how little feedback this pen gives but I like that now. The ink flow is nice as well. The only thing the jury is still out on is the grip section being shaped to force a particular grip. It is probably a good thing for my first pen to create good habits but it just feels a little goofy and awkward.
I have tried Private Reserve Sonic Blue and thought the ink flow was a little slower than I would like or the ink just isn't very pigmented. I switched to Noodler's Liberty's Elysium which is a great vibrant blue and flows much better. I got 6 more samples packs from Goulet pens. Maybe I will update after I try them all.
Overall a good buy
November 16, 2016
Excellent pen. Owned the slick black medium nib version(not this textured charcoal fine nib). Both their medium and fine nibs write excellent. Ready to write as soon as you break the seal. No shaking and cleaning to get it to flow. No dry starts, to scratchiness. Smooth clean lines. I prefer to write with the cap off for a lighter experience but both styles have excellent balanced weight. Very comfortable for long periods of writing.

Cons: for 23-28$ average I wish it didn't look so cheap. It's chunky plastic although the quality is superb.

For the price and material quality you'd think it would come standard with a refill or two. Which brings me to my final con: I've only ever received these pens with blue ink. Ive never seen them listed with specific colours but I think a lot of people would agree that especially for fountain pens, black ink is standard. I doubt many people are buying this to correct gradeschool papers or jot down notes.
A Very Good Pen You Need in Your Pocket
September 12, 2016
One tough fountain pen! I'm very pleased with it's performance with one single exception, the nib is not as smooth-writing as a Pilot pen I have in the same price point. Saying that, this pen is now my "daily driver".

Update 9/10/17: The nib is fine. The refillable cartridge is fine. The body is fine and uncracked. Unfortunately, the cap no longer clicks in to place and stay on the pen when not in use. Having said that, I used this pen A LOT and will be buying a replacement.
This pen is the benchmark for value pens. Get one.
July 20, 2015
The Lamy Safari is a mainstay in pens under $50. It makes every single "best value pens" list. It should. It writes great. It has replaceable nibs. The threads on it are clocked so that screwing it back together lines everything up. It has an ink window so you can see when you're running low.

I take a star off because of it's looks. I'm not a huge fan. I think pens should be gold and lacquered and shiny. The Safari is plastic and utilitarian. The "paper clip" on the cap works well, but looks cheap.

If you are getting started with fountain pens, buy a Safari. It will give you something to judge all your other pens by.

I have used Noodler's Bulletproof Black ink and Waterman Black ink in this pen. Both write fine with no skips. I have found that if you leave it sit for a week it can be a smidgen hard to start again, but that is typical of most pens. Write with it every other day and you'll be fine.
23%
Broker Tactical Pen Review
July 17, 2016
Received pen and it delivered on build and quality. Quality in the heft and solid feel. I ordered the black finish model as I already had a gun metal Uzi tac pen. The pen is shorter than standard length but still comfortable in the hand. The refill is short and will run out much sooner but that's known going in. The part that stands out as sub-standard is the formed pocket clip - - it is very sharp and looks like production needs to have another look at its finish. The part in question on the clip is near the end (point tip) and just underneath the edges. The bolt action is stiff but solid. I had the pen hung on my vest but the screw tip (to access refill) tended to loosen easily and I was paranoid it would fall off and I would lose it. I have since moved my pen to my EDC bag. I first opted to pass on this pen due to the high cost (for a pen) but eventually caved and ordered it. Glad I did.
Nice, with a few areas that need improvment.
August 2, 2015
Works well. I love the feel of the grip in my arthritic fingers. Some pens are too skinny for me. The bolt action is cool, and works well. I did have to tighten the bolt lever after a few months. If it loosens again, I'll put locktite on it. The nose has a tendency to unscrew too easily. The o-ring that is probably there, to help keep it from unscrewing does not create enough drag to do that. Needs a fatter ring, or something. I opted to over tighten mine, by holding it gently with pliers. Will make it not as easy to change the pen cartridge, but that's not something you do every day. It is a great conversation piece, and if left out, could lead somebody into temptation.
The pen quality is great, absolutely insane to play with when you're bored
June 5, 2015
The pen quality is great, absolutely insane to play with when you're bored. The clip is strong, and the ink writes like a regular pen you'd get for a dollar. The only reason I give it four stars is because after writing about 5 pages worth of things, the ink ran out. Sometimes I do think that the pen is overpriced, but I've definitely gotten my money's worth by playing with the little bolt action. Not recommended for those who can easily lose track of pens, as this thing is definitely a little pricey for a pen. For those who are capable of carrying a pen for a while like myself, it's a great investment.
Good idea, mediocre implementation.
January 9, 2015
While this pen is a solid pen, it saddens me that the bolt is slighty loose in the chamber. Simply shaking the pen emits a noise from the bolt against the body.Also, when you do play with it for a while, the tip that holds the spring does get a little loose. This was easily fixed with some pipe threading tape.Unfortunately my pen did not write out of the box, but a simple addition of a Lamy M22 cartridge fixed that right up.All in all, if you like a novelty pen with a tactical advantage, this is pretty good. Just need minor adjustments.
Nice writing, sleek & different.
June 12, 2014
I like this pens design, feel & the way it operates & writes. I was hoping that it would take the Fisher Space Pen refills (as I was led to believe by someone affiliated to Boker..... perhaps they were referring to a newer design or I misunderstood), but it doesn't.I like the bolt action deployment of the writing point & the clip is nice in that it doesn't stick out to get caught on stuff.
It works
June 25, 2012
This is a very well made pen, but I would not consider it a tactical pen. When you refer to those you are saying that you can use them as a weapon in hand to hand and yet they act as a pen. I have another one from a different vendor that is very much a tactical pen. This is just a fun pen as it mimicks a bolt action rifle. The other downside is that nowhere does it tell you what ink refil cartiridges to use as the cartridge is not marked and all that comes int he box is a warrenty form. Still it is a fun pen that writes and is very well made, it could be a little cheaper but it is still a good pen. but do not think that this is an actual tactical pen as the bolt screw would go threw your fingers when you strike and there are no ridges or gripes ont he pen for striking.

Three Star Reviews:

7%
Good writing but with poor cap quality
September 15, 2017
I, along with many others had the infamous cap issue where the cap doesn't stay on after taking it on and off many times. It's a cheap pen but I think better design should be expected.
Write good but it leaked once in to the cap
May 3, 2017
The weight is light. Write good but it leaked once in to the cap. It's not even on a airplane. So be very careful where you put the pen. So it won't ink you favorite shirt.
Expect blue spotted pants
July 19, 2016
Not a secure cap.Most of my pants have a little blue dot on them now from putting this very nice, very comfortable pen in my pocket and using the clip on the cover to secure it to my pants, only to have the pen fall out and leak in my pants. In addition, I've had to send it back once now to have the cap portion replaced because of this problem of just not staying on the pen. I don't feel secure in keeping this pen in my good pants or suit jacket. I do love the feel of it and honestly, I prefer the cartridges to the refillable suction compartment. I feel as if the refill always runs out a week after I put in new ink.
the pen is pretty nice, it wrote a bit on the light ...
August 20, 2015
This is my very first Fountain pen and i'm 42 yrs old! (Guessing that was shortly before most schools stopped using them because my mom who is 62 says they used to use fountain pens in school) But anywho... the pen is pretty nice, it wrote a bit on the light side even with Noodler's black American Eel ink at first, but after awhile it got fairly dark.

(But I'm a noob like I mentioned so maybe I just need a different ink, I might try Parker's or Pilot's ink later when I'm finished with this ink. Does seem like it's a bit of a ink hog? have to refill it every 4 pages of writing or so (Again maybe the fault of the ink donno)...

Also one strike about this pen would be it's a bit on the short side and very light weight (But I've searched Amazon for longer pens and with some weight to them and about 98% of the pens listed seem to all be on the short side and of lighter weight materials, but that' would be a plus for those with smaller hands or arthritis!!).

Other than that though, this pen writes very smooth even on cheap walmart notebook paper, not scratchy at all, I've also tried it with an old "Gregg's Steno" Notepad and it's pretty nice on that as well.

Great first time pen for noobs, I will recommend it still.
Great Pen But Not for Me
March 4, 2014
This pen has beveled edges on the sides of the grip for everyone who holds a pen with their thumb and forefinger along the sides of the pen. I hold a pen between my thumb and middle finger, with my forefinger on top of the pen and in line with the point. As a result, I can't hold this pen the way it was designed for me to hold it. I didn't realize it had flat, beveled spots on the sides until I got the pen. I tried holding it with my thumb and forefinger along the sides, but that puts the pen and my hand in an awkward, uncomfortable position, and I end up twisting the pen to the side so much that it skips too much.The pen is great for someone who holds the pen the way it's designed to be held. It writes very easily, very smoothly, and it's a very light pen.Before you order this pen, please examine the way you hold a pen or pencil. If your forefinger is on the top surface of the pen or pencil, you do not want this fountain pen. If you hold a pencil or pen with no finger on the top surface, but with your thumb and forefinger along the sides, then this is the pen for you.I'm not going to return the pen. I'll just find someone who holds the pen the right way for this pen, and give it to him/her. In the future, I will make sure that I'm buying a perfectly round, circular, cylindrical, non-beveled pen.
23%
Great concept, bad paint.
March 6, 2015
This is a nice, light, different in a good way pen. I usually carry a Gerber impromptu, but their action is finicky and I've sent two back to Gerber for warranty replacement. (They honor that flawlessly, btw.)The action is nice, the "clip in design" is awesome... The paint, not so much. One day in the pocket next to my Fenix PD35 and the paint is scratching right off.For the same price as the Gerber, I'd say get the Gerber. The Gerber is US made and holds up better, but it's a tank for weight.
... compared to other bolt pens and it writes just fine, but the short cartridge and the clip design ...
December 4, 2014
Very reasonably priced compared to other bolt pens and it writes just fine, but the short cartridge and the clip design are definite minuses, as is the bolt placement. It's fun to play with though.
Replace the stock cartridge and you'll be fine.
October 17, 2014
The bolt action is pretty neat, but the spring is a little too strong - no biggie. The bolt mechanism that your finger uses to operate wants to unscrew from the main body, but it has quite a bit of thread, so it would have to unscrew quite a bit for it to actually get lost. Same goes for the tip that you would remove to change the ink cartridge. I'm thinking about using a little lok-tite to keep it from unscrewing in my pocket.The Lamy cartridge it came with was complete junk and ran out of ink the first day before I could write enough words to even fill this review. I almost sent it back for this reason, but when I ordered the pen, I knew i would want a broad tip, so I went ahead and ordered more Lamy cartridges and these turned out just fine. I do wish they had a space pen option, but with the form factor of the pen limits the options for compatible ink cartridges. Also, the unibody construction is nice, but I thought I would like it more than I do. It kinda makes it difficult to clip it onto anything. It works ok in my pocket, though, so I suppose it's alright.
Pen is awesome itself, did not write out of the box
January 9, 2014
This pen was a gift for a friend. The pen itself is unique and very well made. However, the pen did not write at all from day one.
Cool Product, but ran out of ink in days
March 11, 2013
Awesome pen, bolt action works great. fits comfortably in jeans pocket. Only complaint is the it ran out of ink in a couple days and the recommended refills from amazon didn't fit properly. I'm still waiting on another replacement cartridge from Lamy. Hopefully it fits, else I'll be returning the item.
Sturdy, slightly impractical
January 21, 2013
This pen seems well built, and works well. The downside is that the little knob you use to work the bolt action is so small and sloped in such a way that I found my thumb starting to get a bit raw from using it too much.The ink cartridge which came in the pen went bone dry after writing less than a page (!), but I ordered a "Lamy Refills Black Fine Point Ballpoint Pen - LM22BKF" also from Amazon, and it's a perfect fit.

Two Star Reviews:

4%
Not Impressed
June 27, 2017
Keep in mind this is my first foray into the world of fountain pens. I am by no means a fountain pen aficionado. However maybe my lack of knowledge may prove useful in an un-biased review. I got this and a Pilot Metropolitan. Hands down Pilot wins. The fine tip nib on this Lamy writes like a 1.0 gel pen. Very thick line. I guess German definition of fine is different than mine. Another thing is the weight of the pen is too light. This may be good for you? Not for me. Pilot includes a converter with the Metropolitan. Lamy does not. Finally the nib on mine was scratchy on paper as where the Pilot was silky smooth. If I would've gotten the Lamy first as my intro into the realm of fountain pen usage I probably would've dialed out and went back to my Hi-Tec Coleto.
I have not been very successful with these fountain pens ...
December 25, 2015
I have not been very successful with these fountain pens. I have bought at least two and I must not be putting the cartridges in correctly because they have both leaked and I have to be very careful where I place them. I put them in plastic bags with padding to absorb the ink. I feel obligated to use them because I received my first one as a gift and thought I would buy another one because the first one wasn't very successful and I had the same issues with the replacement, with the order I bought cartridges and thinking I could replace it on the original one, but was not successful. I have not used these pens anymore.
No consistency
November 13, 2015
Got to say I tired really hard to like this, but I just don't. I've used disposable fountain pens that write better than this. The pen nib is angled down slightly for some reason and this fact seems to be in part responsible for it not writing consistently. By consistency I mean writing without drying up. In addition the pen sometimes leaks or bleeds too much ink. I thought this was due to the ink I got, Noodler's Ink, so I cleaned the hell out of the pen, put in the blue ink cartridge that it came with it seemed to work better. However, as I continued to write with it, and even now since I just checked, it has excess ink pooling on the nib. Perhaps mine is defective, but from my understanding Lamy does QA on their pens before selling them.
Beware - The FIne Point is the old (very broad) Medium Point!
January 12, 2015
I have two Lamy Safaris I bought several years ago for work, a fine point and a medium point. The fine point was just right, and the medium point was way to broad for writing. I wanted a second fine point for home use so I ordered this one. It appears that Lamy has redefined their nib sizes, because this fine point is the same size as my old medium! It is marked "F" so it is their fine point now, I guess. It writes well, but it is unuseable because of the very broad line. Included in the box is a little "voucher" that allows you to send your pen back to Lamy (in Germany) and exchange it for a different nib size. I think I will do that, requesting an extra fine point, and will report back in this review how that process went when (and if!) I receive my new pen. The expense of mailing it to Germany, plus the anticipated long wait make this a hassle, but I don't want to return it to Amazon because it is not their fault. It is not defective, just beware that if you want a fine point, you should order the extra fine.One happy surprise is that rather than a token ink cartridge, it actually came with the converter, which normally costs about $6.
Rough Writing With.
January 1, 2014
The pen looks good but the writing action is very disappointing. I have some ebay pens I paid a few dollars for that are better. I don't like leaving this kind of review. But since I rely upon reviews always here is my experience.
Not good
October 29, 2013
I ordered this pen and the first one had a super scratchy nib - it can happen and it is a Fine nib, but it sounded like I was ripping phone-books while writing. So, the exchange came promptly from Amazon - this new one isn't scratchy, but it writes very... choppy is the best way to put it. It doesn't skip exactly, but line width's vary wildly even when writing at a consistent speed.So, the second pen had a nib that looked uneven (not the tines). The sides had different angles when it bent in to make the nib point. This was clearly visible to the naked eye so I imagine this didn't help. The main issue seemed to be the 'required' way to hold this pen - it's a good angle, but sometimes you need to hold something slightly different. The second pen I got, the nib would have worked if I could tilt the pen more, but then my finger was holding the edge and not on the 'guides'. I saw no easy way through internet searching to pull the feed out (the nib comes off easy, but that won't change the angle). For a $20 pen, this wasn't worth the hassle. It isn't like this is some nice desk pen people 'ohhh' and 'awe' at. It's a fucntional pen that needed to work right the first time and every time - it didn't.I did give it a second star for the fact it started writing instantly, every try. Even my more expensive pens occassionaly require a few strokes to get the pen fully up to speed. This lamy wrote the second I put the inked converter in and never stopped. So, if you get one with a good nib/feed - it should be great. I can't just keep sending it back and playing the lottery.
8%
Mine broke. Not Happy.
January 30, 2017
I love this pen but it broke after a year and a half. The clip that holds it in your pocket snapped off, so now it's useless.
Buy more ink !
April 7, 2015
Ran out of ink in less then a week!
Pen good ink bad
March 17, 2015
The pen is great except for the pen refills, the LAMY that came with it ran out in a week, but I expected this from reading reviews of the pen so I had ordered 2 extras. But the LAMY refills don't write worth a darn. I will never pay for a Lamy product again.
Issues with ink cartridge and refills
November 12, 2014
The pen is about as expected, but the in cartridge is inadequate. The shipped cartridge started failing in the first day. Upon rest, it would work for a couple of words. Now, after almost half a page, it has completely died. Replacements are not readily available, so it looks like I have a heavy duty, tactical dowel.
Ink
October 28, 2013
Unfortunately, the pen ran out of ink within the first 3 days of using it. Had to return this pen. .

One Star Reviews:

5%
Way better for way cheaper.
September 8, 2017
Not impressed at all. Got the fine nib, I like a fine nibbed pen, this though is scratchy and awful. I have to press way harder than I have with any other fountain to even get ink out and if you write with any kind of speed it just scrapes and doesn't deposit anything. Don't recommend this. The Pilot one I got for around $9 was a way more satisfying pen.
Very scratchy, not smooth. Defective or counterfeit?
August 25, 2017
Very scratchy, no matter what kind of paper. I could not understand the hype about Lamy pens. It has now been two years and I bought another Lamy from a well know pen store, this time an extra fine, and it was MUCH better. I wonder if the first one from this seller was defective or a counterfeit. I should have sent it back.
It broke after just one month and 10 days of ...
July 26, 2017
It broke after just one month and 10 days of use. The cap wont plug anymore, is all loose and falls off. Return window already closed.
Empty Box (Revised)
July 2, 2017
I received an empty box with just a ink cartridge. NO fountain pen.Update: Received the missing pen today, but no ink cartridge in this box. I'm glad I got my full set now, but I'm not sure if I am to send back the original empty box.
it makes great lines but this fine nib model makes full of ...
June 18, 2017
Crazy line skipper. Maybe I got a lemony cricket but I have the Lamy ex-fine and that one has no issues, it makes great lines but this fine nib model makes full of crappy lines. The lines are almost like morse code. I recommend Rotring Artpen medium tip if you are looking for flowing lines with a medium tip.
Poor Product!!!!
February 25, 2015
I've had LAMY pens but this one was a complete piece of junk! The pen wouldn’t write properly and when it did write it released so much ink it bled through the paper. I would recommend buying this product from another company cause LAMY make a great product.
7%
I like the construction of the pen but it just stops ...
January 17, 2017
I like the construction of the pen but it just stops writing when ever . Not pleased for the amount of money I spent.
Pretty much just a piece of neat desk drawer garbage
December 26, 2015
At almost $40, I was really expecting a high quality item. I mean, it's an aluminum pen, right? Should be pretty well built, write super awesome, feel good in the hand, etc... Nope, nope, and nope.I got it in its case (case is probably worth more than the pen) and it was pretty loose fitted. Okay, fine, came from the factory, right? I tighten it up and give it a go. It writes "ok," about as well as a $0.25 bic you'd accidentally walk off with from any public kiosk. Okay, fine; not the best cartridge of ink. Opened it up and found the cartridge is a short type replacement, so you're not going to be able to replace it with most types (write-in-the-rain cartridges are always long, so another strike to that). The mechanism is nice and sturdy feeling, a good tactile response to it. The top clip is way too big and isn't actually pinching anything, so don't expect this to stay in your pocket (or pen sleeve for the military folks). I decided to return it pretty much right away from this, but it hung around for a few days before I got to that. I picked it back up, and found that it was loose again... okay... I tightened it and put it back in the box, and gave it a good shaking. I took it out and jiggled it about a bit and felt the fitting again: loose! Wow... that's some pretty cheap construction, and for a "tacticool" pen, those are all some glaring problems... This would have been a neat knick-knack for $1.50 at a hardware store checkout. Not $40 online.
I received the wrong item. Instead I received the ...
February 9, 2015
I received the wrong item. Instead I received the Boker Plus Titan K.I.D. Tactical Pen, Silver. How can we resolve this?
Waste of money.
February 16, 2014
Ordered for my husband for Christmas. Ink dried up in less than 2 days. Refills are not a standard size and we aren't inclined to order the Boker refills based on the poor quality of the one in the Boker pen. Packaging was promptly thrown away with all the other gift wrap so we were unable to return it.
dissapointed
December 11, 2012
the pen is cool and fun to write with but it took me about a week to be done with all the ink the pens now useless
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Old Price
Old Price
Price
Price
$16.69updated: Mar 18, 2020
$54.71updated: Mar 15, 2020
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Answered Questions
Answered Questions
Article Number
Article Number
0799198311196
0788857024508
Binding
Binding
Office Product
Sports
Brand
Brand
Lamy
Böker
Color
Color
Charcoal
Black
Currency
Currency
USD
USD
Formatted Price
Formatted Price
$35.99
$59.95
Height
Height
295.3 in
39.4 in
Length
Length
326.8 in
196.8 in
Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Lamy
Boker USA - Sports
Model
Model
L17F
09BO080
MPN
MPN
L17F
09BO085
Number of Items
Number of Items
1
1
Number of Parts
Number of Parts
L17F
09BO085
Product Group
Product Group
Office Product
Sports
Product Type
Product Type
WRITING_INSTRUMENT
SPORTING_GOODS
Publisher
Publisher
Lamy
Boker USA - Sports
Quantity
Quantity
1
1
Reviews
Reviews
Score
Score
8.8
7.6
Size
Size
Fine
5.00 in.
Studio
Studio
Lamy
Boker USA - Sports
Weight
Weight
0.2 oz
0.6 oz
Width
Width
47.2 in
39.4 in
Feature
Feature

Charcoal Black ABS coloured plastic body

Black coated steel nib; fine point

Includes one Lamy T10 Blue Cartridge

Accepts Z24 cartridge converter, sold separately.

Bolt action mechanism and click open and close

Flat pen head for secure thumb rest

Hardcoat anodized CNC milled aluminum, black finish

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