Side by Side Comparison of: Logitech vs Thrustmaster

I love it! No complaints here! It's a whole new experience. I have raced cars on closed course circuits and it's very similar in Gran Turismo. Only places I would like to see Logitech improve on realism is the gear shifter feels very plastic-e. The metal against metal in the shifter would feel much more realistic. Also if there would be a way to give feedback through the clutch, brake and gas petals, it would make shifting feel a lot more realistic. Of course using the paddles just makes you lazy ;) Works well on the PS3 and the Computer, haven't tried it on many of the games though. I've spent endless hours with the torque on it's highest setting. I haven't felt it fade or get too hot. It's a very nice setup!Keep in mind, it can only be truely appreciated if you can mount it to something securely, especially the pedals, so they're not moving around on you. I screwed the pedals into the hard plastic floor mat that covers the carpet in our office and this worked perfectly in my situation. I also have a flat overhang on the desk I mount the steering wheel to. I can't wait to upgrade to an actual racing seat setup :D

Best Affordable Steering Wheel That Exist today. Bought this wheel as i find out that it was possible to drift within different sim racing game. As i bought it i was not expecting the wheel to be of high quality. However, i was dead wrong. This wheel in my opinion is one of the best affordable wheels available in the market.Pros,Excellent build quality, everything on this wheel felt durable specially the steering wheel itself which is good since it's the part that would take the most abuse. The Force Feedback on this Steering wheel is great in simulating that real car feel which is very very strong. Another great thing is the 900 degree rotation which is a must for drifting in Sim racing Game. There are many buttons position within the steering wheel which is great for different uses that can each be program with in the game. The additional paddle shifter that rotates with the steering wheel is also an added bonus(however, in drifting i dont use it since ill be using the shifter).Moving on to the shifter, The feel is great, however is somewhat light but nothing to complain about. It is responsive and can easily be shifted without any problems, There are also addition buttons included in the shifter as well which is great for binding keys in game.Lastly the Pedals are also that of amazing quality. They are very which gives them that real car feel. The gas, brake, and clutch all feel very good in a way that imitates a real car as well.Installing, wiring, and mounting were also a breeze i was able to get this set up in about 30 minutes and begin playing.Cons,The only suggestion i could give for this product are the wires themselves. They are very thin and i find them susceptible to breakingOverall a great wheel for the price and recommend it for those looking to play Racing Simulator games.

If you are looking for a racing wheel to go along with your many racing games and driving simulators on your PC this wheel is for you. I am giving this 5 out of 5 stars on pure product usage, build quality and enjoyment from using it. The biggest disappointment from this product is that it is not compatible with the PS4 only the newer G29 is compatible. I know you can't blame logitech because it is software through the sony that won't allow it, but it is still a disappointment that it's not possible due to the fact companies want to make more money. I would recommend this to anyone that wants to play games on a PC with a wheel. The price range is reasonable for a wheel such as this one. The force feedback feature makes games so much more fun to play. This wheel is not like playing in an arcade as a kid where you throw the wheel back and forth swerving. Many games are compatible with the force feedback feature. The clutch on this is also what makes this wheel and pedal set so much better, this feature adds so much more realism to playing simulators and games. Overall I am very happy with my purchase.Pros:-Very nice build quality-Force Feedback-Clutch and Shifter-Nice leather wheel-Excess off buttons to bind-Paddle ShiftersCons:-Medium Price range not super affordable for day to day gamer.-Sometimes hard to attach to certain desks-Not compatible with every gameI would recommend this to anyone that has the money and has been wanting a wheel to use for a various number of video games. Be careful and do your research to make sure the games you want to play are compatible though. This product though is an investment as it is reasonable price range for the quality of product but is not a cheap purchase.

Plenty of reviews covering the mechanics, usage, etc. It's obviously all good. I'm going to touch on the price specifically.Short version: It's worth it. If you're considering the g27 at all then it's probably the right wheel for you.Why not something cheaper?Everything cheaper is a LOT cheaper in some way. Pedals are way worse, or the mechanics fail, or the FFB is super weak or inaccurate. Most common: no shifter (again, if you're considering this then you're considering a shifter and it's worth it.). If you go cheaper (and you're considering this, meaning you're not doing it ONLY because of price...) you may not be disappointed (there are good buys for less), but some day you WILL want to upgrade to this anyway. Do it now and save the time, save the money on a throw away cheaper wheel, and get it right from the start.Why not something more expensive?More expensive wheels are (often but not always) better. Heavier duty, better shifters, better pedals, more solid, etc. But their cost is also almost always 1.5x to 2x to 3x to 5x that of the g27. Are they better? probably, but are they worth the difference in cost? Unlike with the cheaper wheels (which the g27 is a HUGE upgrade to) the more expensive wheels are usually a LOT more money for a *little* more feel. Additionally when you're looking at high end components you tend to be looking at piece meal configurations. You buy just the right pedals, just the right shifter, a separate E brake, etc. The g27 is an excellent bundle, and from there it's easy to piece meal your upgrades as you want them/can afford them without having any one piece that lets your whole set up down by being junk. Buying a $50 wheel and then $250 pedals and a $150 shifter just makes you realize how crap that $50 wheel is. But you can add those pedals and shifter to a g27 and it all feels right.

This is a great steering wheel and shifter combo. There was a problem with the pedals being too stiff for the brake pedal. Found out that it was only a spring issue and going to a local hardware store was able to get a spring to modify the clutch pedal spring and allow me to use the clutch pedal spring in the brake pedal. Otherwise, I was tempted to return the pedals because I couldn't literally push the brake pedal down beyond a few degrees.I prefer to drive a manual transmission without pedal shifters. The shifter is nicely notchy like the car I drive has. Because the shifter is separate makes it easier to position it on my desk too. The only issue I really have with it, is that unless the game supports the shifter properly you can shift without using the clutch and generally you can't do that with real world vehicles. The other thing too is that the shift indicator only works if the game supports it too. However, more than likely you'll not be looking down for that if you're playing a game.The steering wheel being leather wrapped, isn't the quality leather you'd find in premium cars, but it is of a good quality to not have your hands getting all wet and sticky some rubber wheel like you'd find on cheaper steering wheel controllers. That being said, the metal paddles are rather sharp edged, so you might want to be careful rubbing your hands on them. Also, speaking of the buttons on the steering wheel and shifter, you'll have to set them up in all your games more than likely as some games (most games) don't have presets for this steering wheel already set up for say "this button does this, and that that..."Overall, the controller is nice and customizable since you can even change the shifter knob if you wanted. Not sure why, but if you wanted you could even change the steering wheel. I wouldn't recommend it, but it is helpful and shows why I think that its worth every penny that it costs.To just let you know, I use to have a Driving Force Pro steering wheel that only had two pedals and a sequential shifter, I used it but I don't like it. This one feels way more expensive, is way more expensive, and does things that you'd expect from driving a real world car... all without the extremely loud noise that I use to hear from other steering wheels like the Driving Force Pro. So, it is good for a quiet room or a house that needs to keep the noise down some.

I just received this package yesterday and I must say after a month of playing F1 2012 and other racing sims with a wireless controller, it was a welcomed relief. I have only a few hours with it so far and all I can say at this point is YES YES YES, and WOW, what a difference. This wheel/pedal combo is smooth, precise, feels great as far as force feedback, and has worked flawlessly on every sim I have from NASCAR Racing Season 2003, Grid, DIRT, and F1 2012. The easiest plug-n-play experience I have had in a long time. Good thing too because there is no manual. However it is so user friendly the software is even a no-brainer. I set up the functions for each sim so it has customization capability for every simulation that I have, old and new. BONUS, it shipped with rFactor which I have yet to install. My favorite all time sim is NASCAR 2003 from Papyrus and I was a little skeptical it would go as smoothly as it did. It actually detected the the game right off the rip and all I had to do was assign the buttons to what I wanted them to do and it was a done deal. Yes sir ree I am one happy camper. Logitech G27 Racing Wheel As far as Amazon goes, ordered it and received it exactly as promised, as usual.

Kids love it. Daddy loves it too. Very responsive and fun to use.

It works fine, no complaints to this point, works well with Forza series

When I first bought this product I was really surprised on how many bad reviews there were about it. Getting down to business it's a very good steering wheel. I have little to no complaints about it. For beginners I would defientely recommend this since it is very easy to use and durable.

This wheel works really well, the grip is really good on the wheel and the pedals work well. You have to mount it properly or it will not work well. Most of the negative reviews are from people who don't know what they're doing or just suck at racing games.

What a difference this makes! I had been stuck on Forza Motorsport 6 on a course I just could not get past (Bathurst). To move on in the series you have to place 3rd or better and I couldn't get better than 11th. My wife said "Why don't you get one of those wheel thingies". Good advice. After first hooking it up I moved up to 6th using this wheel connected to a TV tray. I then got a GT Omega wheel stand (also highly recommended) and my next race was 4th and then I took 1st! Even though this is an entry level wheel, it is SO much better than the handheld controller for racing.

I got one of these for my girlfriend, it seems really well made, buttons function like they should. Grip is great on the wheel. It's a little sensitive, but that's a good thing overall. Pedals are light. And may need mounted to a base to get the best results. I think it will last a long time and get many hours of use. It does not have the feedback feature, but, for the price, I can't complain. I recommend this set for anyone who wants a good quality wheel without the higher price.

Great piece of hardware. Definitely a 5-star in every category for the price. The next wheel up from this one is basically a $500 setup, so it's a big price gap where nothing really competes with the G27. The only thing I don't like about the hardware is the hard-to-grip vice twist things, whatever you want to call the clamping system. It's like they make it hard to grip so you can't twist it so hard you break the plastic that it's made of. However, it's barely possible to make it tight enough to stay in position, but it is possible so that's not a huge deal. I want to be able to quickly set it up and take it down, though, and it's cumbersome to say the least.I take away 1 star for terrible, awful Logitech software. Two things: 1) Logitech Gaming Software stopped supporting the G27 back in version 5.1. It's on version 8.xx now. You will be running two version of LGS side by side if you use other Logitech hardware, like a gaming mouse that 90% of G27 owners probably have. 2) The download for the old version 5.10 LGS is broken for 64-bit users. If you choose to download the 64-bit version, you get the 32-bit version and it will not install on 64-bit Windows. Oh it acts like it installs and says it completes, but if you pay attention you will see it takes zero seconds to copy files during the install while it should take at least 5 seconds to copy files. After the install, you look for it on your Start Menu and nothing is there. Confusing. No where on the web page does it make mention of this problem. You might get lucky and find the correct 64-bit download posted in the Logitech forums without too much searching. I bet someone in the Amazon comments has a link to the download as well. Basically, it's typical Logitech: Great hardware, terrible software...just like their Harmony remotes and their mouse software until recently.Other thoughts: The wheel-weight (how hard it is to turn the wheel when driving) is heavy. I don't have experience with force-feedback wheels except for an old Logitech Momo wheel, so maybe I'm just not used to it. However, I have driven several cars and trucks in my life and they are all pretty easy to turn with one hand. However, when using a G27 or the Momo, it's like driving a big-rig without power-steering. I'm pretty sure the STi I'm driving in-game has power steering, yet I'm getting a work-out with both arms trying to turn the wheel. Ya, I get it, I'm racing in the game so it should be hard, but it's just not realistic to me. Small little turns at 50mph in a car with power steering should be doable with like 1 finger. Some games have a wheel-weight setting (Assetto Corsa maybe? I forget because I've been trying lots of driving games), but I couldn't feel a difference between 0%, 10%, 90%, and 100%. I'll research this a bit and see if I can make it more realistic in the games I'm playing (Assetto Corsa, GRID, GRID2, DiRT2, Euro Truck Sim 2, F1 2012, etc.). Speaking of Assetto Corsa...wow this game makes it feel like every car has butter all over its tires. Turning the wheel a little bit at 35mph and I'm just squealing the tires and plowing through corners. This is supposedly accurate though...I guess the true sims take a while to get used to after playing Codemaster games a lot.

This is my fourth gaming steering wheel and it is nice but lacks in some places. My first wheel was a Madcat and well for $20 you get what you pay for. The second was a Microsoft wheel... The third wheel I owned was this little company that was new to the market, named Fanatec. I was one of the first 2000 to own their first wheel. After owning that wheel for years I knew it's ups and downs like their H-shifter had a plastic stock... found that out one day in the middle of a close race when I shifted it snapped and well... I lost that race. The brake felt... too light and I could hardly tell if I was pressing the gas or not.Now with this wheel.. none of those are present. The H-shifter is made of metal so good luck snapping it, the brake pedal has some pressure to it, although it is a still pressure and by that I mean it is the same strength as it was to start... I wish it was harder the further you press. There is an aftermarket part to do so but it costs $160 or so... For that I can add stuff to my real car. The pedal set is nice stainless steel which is awesome, but if you rev match without shoes on... well it hurts after two times. There is also a way to mount the pedal set GT style (upside down) but that requires either building a rig or paying $1x0 for it. I think that is really cool, since sometimes I cannot tell if how far I am pressing the gas.The H-shifter. This is nice, but the silver plate where the buttons are located, that is stainless steel too... This to me seems completely unnecessary. I would rather them use that metal or money to improve the feel of the shifter. I drive a manual car with a short throw shifter. I know how a shifter should feel, and this just feels like they don't care. When you shift it is feather light... Now in a car I understand the whole "weight reduction bro" but a shifter should never feel light. If you are racing in the bottom gears 2,4,6, the shifter will not pop out that easy, but a small bump it will take you out of gear. Even with this having a metal stem, I am still not wanting to be a little rougher and shift into a gear faster. Other than the feel and ease of shifting it the shifter is nice quality. I wish the tightening joints (two button looking things on the left and right of the shifter) were a little stronger and the tightening joint on the bottom would tighten more because at the tightest setting it is 1/2" which well seems stupidly useless.The wheel. This is a really nice wheel, I have not used it hours and hours in a week but I have done at least 4 hour marathons with it and not a second felt any different. With my Fanatec it lost connection sometimes while mid race and I'd spin. With this wheel I've never lost connection. The 3 stem wheel is made of stainless steel and has 6 buttons on the face and two (paddle shifters) on the back. It also has a tach light like in rally cross... but it doesn't work... I think it works in F1 2014 but that is it. Everyone else reports the same thing, but to be fair who looks at the wheel mid race. I like the 6 buttons on the wheel because I can use them as look left and right (who has time to take hands off the wheel to look SHIFT BRO), horn and wipers, and brake balance. But these can be changed to what you want (game settings).The Driver(PC). This is by far the best part of the wheel, Logitech has made an amazing driver system. In this you can set the weight of the wheel (how much force needed to turn the wheel), force feedback (hit a wall and find out) which is funny because I launched a front wheel drive car and got torque steer! Never had that happen on any wheel for me. Pedal dead zones, buttons layout, use game settings, specific game drivers, profiles for different games (highly recommend using if you play more than one game), degrees of rotation (which is 900 or 1.5 turns from center). This is a really an amazing driver for the wheel and highly recommend using it to it's full potential.All in all this is an awesome wheel just wish that the shifter was stronger.

After a month of checking prices for the G27, I finally pulled the gun on it when I saw it going for $200 on Thanksgiving night (and then $192 over the weekend; I was able to get a refund on the price difference). After a week of anticipation, I realized that although it is described as compatible with the PS2, I had no idea exactly how it would function with the old system.Did it have a PS2 controller port connection? How could I calibrate the steering and map the buttons? Could I use the stick shift? Would it work for the games that I was still playing?In my case, I lucked out with my purchase ... for the most part.First off, I found a list of games compatible with all Logitech wheels, and two of my games were on list (Gran Turismo 3 and V-Rally 3). So far, so good.Second, I found that only the paddle shifters are compatible with the PS2, and not the manual stick-shift. Booooo... but, that's okay for now. I plan to use the G27 for racing sims on the PC as well, which the stick shift is compatible with.Third, well .... , there just isn't a whole lot of info online about using the G27 with the PS2. I've searched quite a bit, and it seems that most people are using the G27 for PS3 and PC games. Which makes sense. What little info I did find made it appear that although the G27 was technically "compatible" with the PS2, it was also a severely compromised setup.Could this be true? Would I have to be forced to buy a decent PC to use the G27 to its fullest capabilities?Well, yes and no. Yes, you will need a PC to unlock all the goodies that the G27 has hidden within. But no, the G27 works perfectly fine with my PS2.From the reviews that I read, I feared that I would be dealing with whole mess of cables left and right. I feared that I would be dealing with obscure connections and cables. It turns out my fears were overblown. Logitech includes only basic instructions with the G27 because it's frankly fairly simple to setup. The AC power cable and peripheral cables (pedals and stick shift) all go into the steering wheel housing, and the steering housing has a single USB cable that connects to either a PS2, PS3, or PC. Did you know that the PS2 has two USB ports? I didn't before ... but now I know.And now, the moment of truth. I connected all of the cables, and I clamped the steering housing onto my makeshift racing stand (a short bookcase, which is needed to keep the pedals from sliding around. It's not a very comfortable setup, but it works in a pinch). I hooked the USB to my PS2, popped my V-Rally 3 disc in, and crossed my fingers. Was the G27 going to work for this game? Then I heard the telltale sign: the steering wheel starting to turn by itself. Bingo!Setting up the G27 on V-Rally 3 is a tad complex. First off, you need to actually select the wheel on the controller select menu. Next, you need to calibrate the wheel and pedals in the Driving menu. Finally, you need to map some of the keys to the steering wheel buttons. This last step basically consists of trial-and-error because (a) all 6 buttons on the steering wheel lack labels and look exactly the same, and (b) the key mapping meny lists the keys as R1, R2, Triangle, Square, etc. Which button corresponds to Triangle, and which button corresponds to R2? Your guess is as good as mine.I was eventually able to map the keys that I needed (mainly reverse, handbrake, and switch view) and remember which buttons on the steering wheel they corresponded with.As for the gameplay with the wheel: it's tough at first. I was crashing and oversteering left and right for the first 10 minutes. V-Rally 3's controls are twitchier than in other driving games, but this was ridiculous. Then I remembered that I hate driving in 3rd person mode, and switched to 1st person mode. Much better. I could at least complete a stage, and even set records on some sectors. That said, it's still a tough game to get a hang of using the G27. I'm still stuck using automatic transmission mode in this game, that's how tough it is. I will be revisiting it again.Next up was Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec. The legend itself, a game that came out over 13 years ago, yet still looks damn good in HD. I popped in the disc, and waited for the sign ... yes, there it is .... the steering wheel turning by itself. I just jumped straight into Arcade mode and didn't even bother calibrating the wheel. Would it work? I hopped into a Miata (in auto transmission mode; the scars from V-Rally 3 scared me from using manual mode) and waited at the starting line. As the light turned green, I grabbed the wheel and punched the throttle.As I made my way through the circuit, I finally realized how insulated I was from the racing experience before when I was using the controller to play this game. The G27 wheel actually fights me when I ride the curbs or oversteer into a spin. I could place my lines far more accurately, brake more precisely, and use the throttle more discriminately than I could ever hope with the PS2 controller. On Gran Turismo 3, I finally found what sim racing with a wheel is all about, and it is a complete breath of fresh air.Then I actually calibrated the wheel and found the experience to be even better. There was a bit a slackishness without the calibration, but now, the wheel was far more firm and provided a satisfying heft when I turned it.Unfortunately, I now had to deal with the button mapping. Just when you think you had the G27 buttons figured out, playing two different games will throw a sharp curveball at you here. It turns out that the button mapped to, say, Triangle in V-Rally 3 is completely different than the button for Triangle in Gran Turismo 3. Worst of all, you'll find that the paddle shifters don't work as intended in default mode. Using the right paddle, for example, switches the driving view. So ... you guessed it, more trial-and-error and intuition to figure out which button corresponds to the PS2 buttons.But wait, it gets even worse. I figured out which button to map to get "reverse", and it worked in the game for the first few minutes. But later on when I needed to reverse my car, I found the button no longer worked. Nor did any of the other buttons.I've also found on occasion that the paddle shifters stopped working a second or two before they started to work again.That said, now I'm just carping here. In some ways, the G27 is indeed a compromised setup on the PS2. You need some time to figure out how to map the wheel buttons, and sometimes the buttons don't even work after you've mapped them all out.But for just the steering wheel, braking, and throttle pedal experience, the G27 is as good as advertised. This is a great wheel, but it needs a great system that is 100% compatible with it to bring out its true potential.Other notes:- The default brake pedal spring is really stiff. I drive my actual real-life car using left-foot braking, but after a few hours LFB with the G27 (especially when I do rallies), my left shin muscles were left really sore from the workout. Gotta get my muscle endurance up, I guess.- I haven't even touched the stick shift yet. I intend to teach myself how to drive stick shift with the G27.

This was my first racing steering wheel. One summer I got real into racing games and bought this wheel plus a stand.Racing Steering Wheel Stand for Logitech G27 & G25 Wheels, Deluxe, Original Wheel Stand Pro Stand. Wheel and Pedals Not included.. And in no way in this review am i saying i am a good enough driver to fully test the capabilities of this wheel.So right out of the box this thing looks prestine!You have buttons on the wheel which can be programmed for F1 racing. and a six speed shifter.One thing i found with this is that not many steering wheels come with pedals that include a clutch. You can't be a racing gamer and not use a clutch while driving.Pro:The combo of getting a wheel, shifter, and pedalsPlaystation CompatibilityMounting holes to screw onto a surface.Clamps for connecting it to a deskLeather wheelRPM/shift LEDsPaddle ShiftersClutch PedalDual Force Feedback MotorCon:Most of the wheel is made out of plastic which makes it feel like you could break it easily with some hard driving. So far it has held up these past years.Many cablesThis wheel has been on the market for many years and I am surprised Logitech hasn't put an upgraded version out. By far this controller is amazing for the price but I do believe there can be many improvements on the quality of materials used.This is a great entry level piece and you can never go wrong with Logitech their products and customer service and top notch. Even if something is made out of mostly plastic, that plastic is high quality.Now there are many mods that can be done to this product out there that improves your driving performance and experience but they do void your warranty because it requires you to open your device. I nor Logitech are not liable if you choose to do these mods to your racing wheel.

This wheel has genuinely exceeded my expectations. Awesome built quality, I can tell this thing will take a beating over the years and there zero play in the wheel itself when you try to wiggle it; rock solid. The smell of the leather on the wheel literally exudes with the aroma of quality, love it. My first run with this wheel was with F1 2013 and had no luck getting the force feedback to work as I could not get the software from Logitech web site to open. After some days of frustration I finally called Logitech customer support and he quickly emailed me an updated game controller and it worked! They had been having problems with the previous version of the software on 64 bit windows. So...just a heads up, you will need to call Logitech at the date of this review to get the new version of the game controller in order to get force feedback in your games.UPDATE: 1 year later. The wheel has held up very well and remained solid, no play whatsoever in the steering mechanism after about 4 or 500 hours of use. BUT there is a serious flaw that has developed for me which I did some research on and discovered it to be a trend with the G27 in particular. The wheel is becoming off centered during use. I messed with re calibration settings again and again which worked temporarily yet the wheel would always inevitable stray from center during driving to the point I was holding the wheel 90 degrees to stay straight. Apparently the optical sensor on the force feedback motors becomes lose inside. There are you tube videos instructing a fix with epoxy but it involves taking the wheel almost completely apart.Logitech is sending me a new wheel. I have dropped my rating from 5 to 4 stars (and not 3) because Logitech is standing behind their product. I will post back with an update in another year to see if the problem has been potentially addressed in new makes of the wheel.If I were to start over I would look into another model for this reason however, as now I am without a wheel for at least a couple of weeks and I'm still waiting for my shipping label to arrive in my email from Logitech to send it back to them. Customer service is another review I'll have to update at a later time as I see how this unfolds.Having gone through that the force feedback lives up to its fancy gear technology. On my old Logitech Wingman wheel it always felt a bit like it was going to break while in use as well as having that gear whine when you whipped it around, the G27 is the real deal and makes you realize the others are toys. If like me you are contemplating whether 200 bucks for a wheel is worth it I can say that it is if you are into being connected with your driving games.One last tip I will mention is this: at first the wheel felt like it had a very small dead zone even when the game's settings where set to zero dead zone on the steering in put. I ended up going into the Controller Profile for the wheel's settings and set the SENSITIVITY from 50 to 100 percent which made a big difference and completely cleared up the wheel's dead spot. Playing F1 2013 with this wheel is truly an experience.

I use this with my PS3 playing Gran Turismo 5, and dang do I love this wheel. The force feedback makes it so much more real (although it can be slightly jerky sometimes - I guess its tough to approximate the differential resistance that the tires would give). The quality of the build is fantastic, and everything works as its supposed to.I own a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, and play GT5 to hone my driving skills at HOME instead of on the streets where my wife says it's too dangerous. meh. So I know how a real sportscar performs and handles, the wheel, the shifting, etc, and this force-feedback wheel with GT5 is the closest I've ever played a video game to reality. Even better than the setups at arcades honestly.I especially love the paddle-shifters - made of a really solid metal, its so awesome and responsive, and way better when playing manual transmission. The wheel also feels great to grip - just a little bit smaller than even a normal sports-wheel, but its still a good size.Installing the components on a table or desk is easy. There are a ton of wires, and they go everywhere - so it does make it quite difficult to move the stuff around (I really wish the components were wireless, that should be their next edition). But the tightening screws have a 'pop-out spring' mechanism where the tightening knob pops out a bit to give you more grip length, you tighten it hand tight, then when you push it back in, a spring tightens it just a sinch more to be sure its super snug and doesn't move.I recommend weighting whatever table or stand you attach this to. When you're driving at 100mph+, and you jerk the wheel, you will straight lift your table off the ground unless it's weighted. I put about 50lbs of weight-lifting weights on my table to keep it stable.Overall amazing device, calibrates easily with GT5, and is so much fun. Extremely good materials, great construction, great design, good electronic components. Expensive no doubt, but worth it imo.

Very nice wheel but the box is misleading it says it will work with the th8a shifter, but only with PC so if you wanted to buy this and the shifter don't you have to buy a 200$ wheel. I was disappointed so if you're looking to buy a wheel that works with the th8a shifter you're going to have to go tmx.

8/2017 after reporting the problem and sending a video showing the problem the company sent a new thrustmaster to replace the defective one. Items can break but how a company responds speaks volume.7/2017 physically its fine but the steering it pulls to the right on the screen. Odd thing is there doesnt seem to be any way to recalibrate and a google search doesnt turn up anything that dixed it. I would be less upset but the game has had very light to no use during the school year and when the kids are off and playing the game its broken. Ive reached out to the manufacturer wait and see.I would have given it a 5 star but the controls to navigate the game menu was painful with this the steering controls.

This Is An Awesome Wheel! It Was Super easy to set up. No need for screws, you just need to clamp it to your desk. I love how you can change the difficulty of the steering! The only problem I have is that the pedals don't stay on the ground if you try to brake hard. Overall a great purchase.

Had a issue right away but contacted Thrustmaster tech they suggested to unplug the round breakaway cable and replugging which did the trick. So far so good I'm still evaluating but I beleive I'm going to keep this it's fast responds right away what more could I ask for with my first Xbox racing wheel.

Item arrived complete and properly packaged. The item was on backorder for a few weeks, but was sent out promptly by Amazon was they had them in their warehouse. We have definitely enjoyed the racing wheel, just which it had the responsive steering, but for the money I can't complain. It's a bargain for what it is. Quality is descent. Just be careful running the wires as they are thin and you can fray one real easy. We mounted it to a Playseat which does not have the exact mounting holes as I had to drill a couple myself.

Ok, so this review is really just my initial impressions. I may revise up or down later.First, some background: I have been looking at wheel options for driving games and, specifically, Forza Horizon 2 for a little while now, and I'm definitely intrigued by the much more expensive options.I'm not opposed to spending a lot on a good gaming accessory once I know it's something I'll enjoy. As a frame of reference, after realizing how much more I was drumming in Rock Band, as opposed to playing any other instruments (and having replaced the stock drum kit once already), I purchased the ION drum kit.But while interested in a wheel, I just wasn't sure I'd really be overly "wowed" by it. I've always been content driving with the standard controllers.Having said that, while $100 certainly isn't trivial, it seemed like a good entry-level price point to me for this type of accessory.And going in, I knew I wasn't going to get exactly the same level of performance out of the wheel, but I felt it would at least let me know whether I cared enough about playing the game with it to justify upgrading at some point.So....Out of the box:Ridiculously easy to set up. Clamped it to a table, plugged it in. The Xbox One and Forza immediately recognized it and I was *almost* good to go. That *almost,* however, is my first major gripe about this controller. I have a passkey set up on my account and it requires the joystick/thumpad to enter. The steering wheel tries to be clever and disguise the thumbpad as an "engine start" button. The result makes it difficult to use and next to useless. I had a number of failed passkey attempts before I had to fire up the normal controller to enter it.I'd honestly prefer to forgo the clever aesthetics for a more user-friendly pad.Playing the game:It definitely does add a cool, visceral feeling to the game to be able to press on the gas pedal and control the vehicle with a steering wheel.It also takes much more getting used to. Where I have trained myself to feather the gas/brake as necessary over years of standard controller-based driving, I found it was VERY easy to be too heavy with the gas with this controller. Much spinning out was to be had initially.Other than one gripe with the wheel, I found it to be very responsive. Although that gripe is a bit troublesome. Almost immediately I found that the wheel has a small, but significant "dead" spot at center. This makes subtle steering corrections extremely difficult. Trying to avoid an oncoming car to score some "near miss" points? Good luck. Whereas the thumb controller reacts pretty much instantly, with this wheel I often found myself either not moving the car left/right at all, or over-steering whenever I wanted to make a minor correction.The best way I can describe it is how some older cars have somewhat mushy steering.It's a quirk I have to get used to and I can't emphasize enough that I didn't really expect perfect performance out of a product that is, essentially, entry level. I'm assuming the mushy steering is just the nature of the bungee resistance system and I would expect the more expensive motor driven wheels to NOT have this dead spot sensation.At the risk of this review coming off as negative, that isn't how I intend it. The goofy control of the thumbpad and the small dead spot in the steering really are the only two complaints I have so far. And even so, I found the wheel tremendously fun to use and it really does add a new dimension to the game.For a casual fan of driving games, or someone who, like me, isn't sure they'll really get anything out of a steering wheel accessory, I think this is a fantastic product and I'm not disappointed.

Common problem can arise permanently fixable by voiding warranty and spending more money. There is a cog with holes inside of the unit, that gets noticed by infrared or some sort of light, which converts into the amount of wheel turn recognized by your gaming device. It can get a hairline crack as did mine, and have to be fixed, which you should replace with a brass encoder it is called, and not cheap. Original encoder is plastic and lasted a month or two, but the brass encoder has lasted a ton of use. Logitech refuses to comment in their own commend thread about this issue after years and years in the thread, so be aware on new models that this may be an ongoing issue perhaps. I still recommend it, and recommend using a velcro mod on the shifter so that it doesnt feel or sound like plastic when you hit the stick into a gear. Huge improvement to look into on youtube. Also replacing the springs in the pedals with the entire nixim pedal mod springs, is phenomenal for 60 USD. Must do mods.

I race on Iracing. This wheel is mediocre at best. This wheel was NOT worth the $300 i paid for it 3 years ago, much less the $800 they are asking for it now.This wheel itself lasted pretty good, but the force feedback is choppy and switchy. I had to repair a loose part internal inside the shift lever after the first year. The pedals were worthless jubnk from day one. The pedals are almost worthless for short track racing. The Brake pedal works like a light switch, no matter how much adjustment you do in the profiler or in iracing. The Throttle pedal twitches and wont give you full throttle half the time. The pedals need CONSTANT re-calibrating, and simply are far below standards in quality.

Good wheel, but I had quite a few issues before I got it to work. The first wheel I received I had to return because the centering on the wheel kept changing due to the force feed back. This is a known issue with this wheel and I had the same problem on the second wheel. I had to go in and modify it myself which was a HUGE pain in the butt. You basically have to disassemble the wheel completely and add some hot glue to small part that can slip under the vibration of the force feedback. Why on earth Logitech hasn't sorted this out I will never know. Since I made that fix I haven't had any problems, but that isn't something I should have to do on a new product.

Originally posted by radome914gt:This is a very nice wheel in all respects save one. The design of the optical pulse encoder. The slotted disk component is not keyed to the servo shaft and consequently the manufacturer chose an interference fit to keep it in position. Well on mine it was too tight and the disk cracked. Clearly it was not made of a suitable plastic. This is a widespread problem in units already fielded that the manufacturer may or may not have addressed by now in new units. Good luck!I purchased my Logitech G27 from Amazon but did not use it for over a year. I began using it regularly after getting a suitable game. I discovered that the wheel was losing its center during game play. For example at the start of a session the wheel was straight but by the end of ten minutes of play I had to hold the wheel almost 90 degrees right in order to go straight. After that happened, if you moved the wheel through its range of travel, all the way right and all the way left; the right side had no "cushion" before the hard stop and the left side had twice the normal "cushion". In order to recover, I had to unplug the wheel at the USB port and it was fine after it ran through its self test.I learned from various posts on the subject that the pulse encoder is a real weak spot on the G27. I tried Logitech support but they were not too helpful. They took forever to get back to me and seemed bent on blaming everything but the wheel itself. Courting disaster, I very carefully took mine apart and discovered that the slotted disk had a radial crack from the center to the edge. The crack traversed the web between two slots effectively adding one slot to the disk. Using a very pointy toothpick (or needle) I was able to dab just the itty-bittyest amount of super glue into the part of the crack that went through the web. The remainder of the crack I filled with nail polish. Then painted it all black with a fine-point sharpie. I also nail-polished the encoder to the servo shaft for good measure although it was not loose despite being completely cracked. Upon reassembly and testing it works perfectly. No more drift.

Gee, I'd like to play some Dirt Rally right now... but instead I'm left with a wheel that keeps getting farther and farther off center. It takes less than a lap and the wheel is centering completely to the left. Looks like I've found the root cause to be the "optical encoder". It somehow cracked. Since I'm fairly technical I'm just replacing it with a brass encoder and praying that works so I can play some Dirt Rally...UPDATE: Changing from 1 stars to 3 as I do not know how common this issue is. Plus, I did get it fixed. When it works, it is great for the money.

I am not big of racing games or wheels.The unit itself is nice, it simply works. However if you don't plan on having this thing setup 24/7 do not buy it.The pictures do not show any wires and it does not mention how many wires it has.You have to hook a wire from the pedals and gear shifter to the wheel and then from the wheel to the wall jack and to the USB.

Seems to good quality, unfortunately i was an idiot and did not read the title product, this is not compatible with the XBOX 360. for the ONE only

for forza horizon 3 you can not do a single race due to the lack of being able to turn the wheel with out over turning and breaking it This product needs better development . Its broken two weeks already.Would like to know if can get a refund?

Wheel is good. Clamps tight to flat surface. Pedals are the weak link. Impossible to get to stay out. I've tried just about everything but when your mashing the pedals in a race there while assembly slios around. I've tried tapping then, non skid on the bottom even mounting to a larger base. Nothing hold then in place

The wheel itself is great. The hold back in my opinion is the pedals and mounting. I also bought the Hori racing wheel and it is just so easy to mount with suction cups as opposed to the weird mounting hardware from this wheel. The flappy paddles on this wheel feel amazing and authentic. It was easy to setup and play. Just took a little while to get used to as steering isn't the same as real life. Also, the pedals suck. After playing for a while, my legs were sore and hurt. It is hard to press the pedal. All in all, I felt the Hori was a better wheel.

For XB1, you don't have much choice in racing wheels. You either buy this for $100 or the $350 and up for premium Thrustmaster, there really is nothing in between, except a horribly rated Hori. With that in mind, this wheel is within expectation of a $100 set. If it was perfect, there wouldn't be any reason to buy the more expensive ones. So for what it is, it gets the job done, and allows you to have adequate enjoyment of Forza 5 & 6. But because it is not super responsive or easy to modulate during game play, in the back of your head, you always wonder what you are missing, or would you be better at Forza if you had the more expensive wheel. Bottom line, this is one of those incidences where you get what you pay for. I can only afford mediocre price, and I got mediocrity performance.

Wheel performs well and feel sturdy. Clamps to table which is not too sturdy. REALLY HATE that it does not have a port to plug in headset. Workaround is to use a controller for the headset. This is lame since it sometimes takes control of as the primary controller making the wheel useless until you reboot the controller. This is a wired wheel and do not like that the cord is just 6 feet - I needed to get a 6 foot extension to be at a normal distance away from TV.

Pros: It was priced very wellIt looks and functions nicelyMakes any driving game much more immersion and enjoyable.Cons: within 3 weeks it suffered from a broken mounting clamp and had to be opened up to tighten the mount for the optical sensor; voiding the warranty.It was much easier for me to fix it than send it back to logitech and upon reading multiple stories from around the Web it seems that Logitech's customer service and warranty department is a pain to deal with anyway.

I bought this wheel 3 weeks ago when I started to get interested of playing simulation games. Project CARS was awesome at the first, and then I ended up buying PlaySeat, which was good thing to marry with this set.After 30 hours of playing over 3 weeks the wheel started to drift its center point to right. There are some fixes for this if you don't have warranty, but since mine was only 3 weeks old, I just decided to return it and the ThrustMaster T500RS, because Fanatec is even more expensive...The main issue, according to quick research, is that there is a optical wheel for the steering detection and that gets loose. Fix is to replace it, or glue more fixed, or get a brass one that is more rigid. In any case requires medium or higher skills with mechanical stuff.The wheel itself is gear driven so it is bit clunky at the middle, it is quite much fun, and the pedals feel better than just a spring loaded flap. Super easy to install and bolt on to desk or so on.I would recommend this for a beginner driver and for one whom wants to see if simracing is a thing for them. Anyone whom is already more serious about driving racing simulators should look for ThrustMaster or Fanatec.

After 2 weeks of use wheel started to lose alignment. In those 2 weeks I only used it couple of hours every other night.After couple of turns in a game, keep the wheel centered and the car ingame will go left, first it will start slightly, as you progress in the game and make laps it will go worse and worse. i tried this with many other games and result is the same. I calibrated it in game, in profiler but no help. it loses alignment. Little bit of a research on internet showed that many people have the same problem with this wheel.worse thing is, i cant find any serial number on the papers for warranty. This warranty paper using some latin language which I do not understand, and on the paper all the details they are supposed to fill up are left plain blank. Model, serial number, factory number, fecha de entrega etc. That last one is the mexican that I could not translate to English.I am very disappointed. My wheel is not working properly. and I do not know how to make logitech honor their warranty without a serial number of the product!UPDATE: I am changing the review from 1 star to 2, because with another buyer's help i was able to find the serial number at the bottom of the main wheel base. However, I am still disappointed it lasted only 2 weeks without a problem -and that with light use- and has to go back for repairing.

Unfortunately this item came in a box within a box that was almost totally torn apart. I decided to try the Logitech Wheel and tested it for a few weeks. The wheel performed well when it worked but it would lose the settings of the racing simulator I was using and also the setting of the Logitech software. I had to reset the control settings several times per session. This wheel is very loud. I had it connected to a metal desk and it sounded very loud and could be heard a few rooms away. I think you would have better success if connected to a racing stand of some kind. I have no way of knowing if the wheel was damaged in shipping or defective. I returned the item to Amazon. This wheel has high ratings and gets the "bang for the buck" award by many reviewers so other experience could be better than mine.

Set up was okay even though no CD or instructions were included for setting the controls. Called Logitech and after quite a while on the phone, they determined that the stick shift would not work. Pedals worked great, husband did not like the loose feeling of the wheel which was slow to react and cause overcompensation. Since stick did not work, he had to use "pedals" behind the wheels. For the price, not to have the entire system work, we are returning it. Not worth the money.

As of this time, I am on my second wheel, and in the process of getting this one warrantied as well since it is failing the same way as my first one. Here's the issue that I have with the wheel:Upon plugging it in to allow it to calibrate, it will attempt to spin the wheel all the way to the right. But when it does, you can watch it cut out multiple times. Now, it still completes calibration, but this is a big problem. During calibration on a windows based operating system, when this "cutting out" happens, you can hear chimes as if a USB device has been disconnected then reconnected for each time it stutters. My second problem, when playing with the force feedback power supply plugged in, the motor cuts out in the turns. It gives you the feeling/sensation that it is skipping a tooth on a belt driven force feedback wheel (common in arcade cabinets). Now, this is a gear driven wheel, so there is no belt, but I use that example to describe my feedback feel. The potentiometer is spot on, so whenever this issue happens (causing my wheel to "jump"), it often forces me into a spin. If you are an iRacer, this is bad, they penalize your account's "safety rating" whenever you meet the criteria that they deem fit to penalize (lose control, contact with the wall, contact with another car, run off track...).My last gripe about the wheel: being that it is gear driven, there is a small deadzone in the wheel (wheel at 0 degrees), I don't believe you can fight that due to how the wheel is designed.What is GOOD about the wheel: It is an absolutely awesome wheel when it is new, it is very responsive. You get paddles and also a stick shift, so you can choose your poison. There are also plenty of buttons compared to many wheels on the market. Some have quite a bit more, but they are nowhere near the price that you pay for this wheel (also consider what you get for the money vs others that often sell everything else separately). I have learned to race without force feedback, and have recently become faster without it (most drivers are, it just takes getting used to). But since it is a feature that I wanted in what I would have otherwise deemed a quality wheel, I shouldn't have to deal with the problems that I have exhibited with for 2 wheels in a row.Customer service is fairly decent. I have dealt with them via email since it is more convenient for me. Just be it known, that it can take 1 to 2 days to get a response. They have been really good to me considering the disappointing outcome (or my luck).If you do decide to buy it, I advise holding onto the original packaging... you never know if/when you'll need it.

This item broke after 2 months Would like to return for a refund. Great idea but the wheel does not work appropriately with the game. The wheel is too loose and makes the car turn left. We are not sure how to get a refund.

The racing wheel was great but the peddles there was somthing wrong with the gas peddle it kept on like you had the gas on all the time I think a spring broke it work for about two hours then it started acting up.

Wheel is not good. It works, sort of on my X box 1. 2 seconds a lap slower than I do on the controller. Have to reset the sensitivity every time you start the game. Instructions are minimal . Press 4 buttons at the same time to change sensitivity is stupid. Bungee cords are too strong. Clamping to the table system is not well designed. Controls are not user friendly .. I have had other wheels and pedals for the PC that were much better. Now on the X box cannot use them.

The steering wheel is not bad, but after only a few hours of my son using it, the rubber grip has started to pull loose. Nothing like having to fix a brand new toy.

There seems to be a lag that I can't get rid of. I'm so bummed that I wasted money on this.

This wheel is not recognized by the X-Box one in the add a device window in settings, so what I've found is every time I play a different game then go back to Forza 6 with the wheel I must re-calibrate and adjust the sensitivity.This wheel also is not very good with Forza 5, at high speeds, (100 plus) it is almost impossible to keep the car straight.

I hate you Logitech. I bought a G27 late in the PS3 lifespan for GT6. Expensive purchase for this pizza guy. The mile long list of supported wheels on GT6 and the USB connection meant there was absolutely no reason to believe this wheel would not work for the upcoming PS4. Dudes on the internet have hacked the g27 wheel and it works, and you guys won't give us a proper software solution. the G29 is almost the same, and any differences i refuse to believe where anything other than to force my recently bought wheel into premature retirement, that's wrong.

I am updating my purchase review on this order due the the following facts. When I purchased this wheel it was stated to have a 3 year warranty on the ad when purchased. This was the ONLY reason I purchased the wheel since it was listed as being refurbished. The wheel obtained a know issue / defect on this particular wheel. Well documented in Logitech forum concerning the ability to remain calibrated in center position. The wheel was manufactured with a small gear problem causing the calibrating gear on one of the inner motors to spin on the motors shaft and become out of center calibration almost immediately during use. During the registration of this wheel, the Logitech site documentation specified that it had a 3 year warranty. So, I contacted Logitech to have it repaired per the contract warranty. Logitech used an excuse to disallow the warranty based on no facts or proof of their accusations. I repeatedly requested proof of their accusations to deny warranty on a product still showing it was covered under their warranty. Not a piece of evidence was ever presented by Logitech to prove their grounds to deny warranty repairs. Records still show the unit is still under warranty. Logitech has been the worst company I have ever tried to deal with for warranty repairs on their own product. I believe, with the information I have obtained in the Logitech forum that they knew exactly the issue with this product and was a defect. They refused not only my repair, but several others with the same exact problem that my device had. Logitech has backed out of an agreement based on the fact that they manufactured a defective product and would loose profits if they serviced the units that were being requested repairs. It is very similar to a recall on a vehicle, but Logitech used it's large corporation power to break warranty contracts with many many others. Logitech had every bit of knowledge concerning this defective product and lied to it's customers about repairs that were legitimately requested by customers. The unit is defective and proven defective and Logitech broke the contracts illegally. I will never buy another item from Logitech ever again due to this scam that they created to get out of warranty repairs posted directly on their website. If I could give less stars I would, they deserve nothing for what they did to me and many others.

This racing wheel has developed a nasty habit of shocking me whenever i touch a metal component. I'm not talking about a simple static shock, but rather a persistent, low voltage pain as the wheel uses me as a ground. This wheel has had extremely light usage, and so for something so drastic to fail is scary, to be frank. After doing a search online, I am not the only one with this issue, so please beware that this product has some serious issues with internals shorting out, causing you to become the ground.Honestly, I'm afraid to plug this thing in, and will never use it again, or even a replacement.

That problem you hear about where the wheel stops calibrating properly, and it veers to the left or right in-game? Yea....that happened to be after less than a month of owning it, and with light careful use (I don't play racing games at all, just euro truck and omsi and other "soft" sims). Logitech's customer service is abysmal. Don't expect to get a response from them on anything for 3+ days. And make sure YOU respond within 2, or theyll mark your case as "solved" and be done with you. I have to return a product that I've had for around 3 weeks, and it will most likely take a month or more to get a new one finally sent to me. If they would just replace the tiny plastic sensor module with a metal one, it would solve 90% of customer's problems.

I love it. Very smooth feel. It doesn't 'unload', like the Driving force gt. It's a great wheel. I bought it for my PS3 and PC, not knowing, if I ever upgrade to PS4, it's not compatible. Now it's be cheaper to upgrade my PC, if I want to play Project CARS.\After less than a year it has failed. No bug fix, nothing I download will fix it. Wheel pulls to one side and is off center.It is now junk. I'm hoping @logitech logitech.com, will come to my rescue.It's a lot of coin for a toy. Then it's junk

I purchased this controller really eager to play Racing simulators on my PC. The product looked like it was built with sturdy materials (The pedals felt great, the steering wheel was made of leather). The only real annoyance I had with it was the amount of cables it used because I had to set this up on a desk where I do all my other computing, but this is not an issue if you have a permanent racing setup (Racing seat, a mount for the steering wheel, etc). I previously owned a Logitech Driving Force GT, which was real noisy, but in comparison, the G27 manages to be relatively quiet. Why am I giving this product 1 star, you might ask? Well it's because within an 30 minutes of owning it, I noticed it was not in proper working order.After I had set-up everything, the wheel powered up and the FFB calibrated itself. However I noticed that wheel itself was off centered a bit, but I didn't think this would be bothersome, because I anxiously waited to get this wheel and wouldn't let something that trivial bother me. I decided to load up Assetto Corsa, and get some action with this wheel and that is where everything went wrong. As I progressed through the session, the FFB had caused the wheel to lose it's centering even further from what is was originally at (It was about 30-40 degrees off center to the right ). Well I went to the internet, and it turns out I was not the only one having this issue.Sources:http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Controllers/G27-Centering/td-p/479712http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Controllers/G27-wheel-wont-stay-in-allignment/td-p/406468/page/6https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/g27-off-centre-steering.229751/A quick internet searched revealed that many consumers were experiencing the same issues that I had. I was fortunate enough to catch this problem not even an hour after owning this wheel, but others were unfortunate enough to have this occurs months of own the wheel. In addition to the faulty G27, it turns out that this wheel's predecessor, the Logitech G25, had the same issue almost. It kid of shows how poor Logitech is with their products.There is a solution to fix this problem (a solution that will void any warranty) which is as simple as using some glue or purchasing a small replacement part, but for me I am not confident enough in my skills to try to fix it myself, so I just returned the wheel. If you're interested in buying this wheel go for it, because it seems like an excellent wheel and perhaps you will get lucky and won't receive one that is defective. I'm just trying to make sure people know that their is a minor risk to purchasing this.

I HATE IT WITH FORZA 6. NEEDS MORE ADJUSTABILITY FOR RATIO. BARELY TURN THE WHEEL AND THE CAR IS OFF THE ROAD. TRIED TO TUNE IT....DIDN'T GET THERE

The A button was the only function that worked. To access menu items another controller was needed making it really inconvenient. Drivability was adequate for a non force feedback system. Even an entry level wheel should function fully and this one does not.

Ever from the start we expereienced a small amount of un-wanted jerk movements from the wheel that didn't not correspond to the actual wheel movement. As time progressed this became ever more sensitive rendering the wheel use-less as play is impossible. You just get thrown off the road without having any control - no fun at all. My son is back with the standard XBOX remote.

This didn't work with my Xbox. It said it was USB in the packaging but was not.

Bought the wheel but it does not work with Forza 5 or Formula1 2015. After many hours of trying calibrating, changing settings, etc we called Thrustmaster who say it is not their issue but the game maker's problem. Called the game maker but they pointed at Thrustmaster and Microsoft. Calling Microsoft is always hell... So left with a non-working product with no support.Do not buy this products if you are not willing to be your own tech support or expect a stable product that actually works!!

I bought it for my kid for Christmas and it doesn't work… We tried to install it and the software doesn't permit the installation. My husband started to read other reviews about this product and found out we were not alone. Too bad because not only is this an expensive product but because I live out of the US is pretty hard to return it. Sad kid on Christmas but even more frustrated parents..