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Five Star Reviews: | 50% Great first shoe! May 21, 2017 I bought these as a first time climbing shoe for my 12yr old son. He wears a size 5.5 street shoe and I bought the size 6 to give him extra room to grow. So right now he wears them with socks and says they feel great, not too loose or tight. He climbs 5.9's in them at the gym only so far. I suspect these will work out until he's in a 6.5 street shoe. Very pleased with this purchase and a great price at ~$50. Pretty decent March 17, 2017 Given the reasonable price, I'm pretty happy. I'm not an every-day climber, but I've been several times since I got these and they show no wear. I'm saying they fit as expected, but I did expect them to be a little small as climbing shoes tend to be. They are not super comfortable, FYI. I've never worn a pair of climbing shoes that were. and I'm sure it's going to be great when I wear it for the first time at ... February 8, 2017 I went and listened to the fellow reviewers, and I purchased a size up above me. My street shoe size is 10.5, so I bought a 11.5, and it fits as a rock climbing shoe. The toes are snug, and the front toe is right up on the edge. I can't tell whether or not my Big toe is curling or not. But regardless, I don't experience any pain or discomfort with the shoe, and I'm sure it's going to be great when I wear it for the first time at the rock climbing gym. Nice and tight. July 15, 2016 Like all climbing shoes, a bit tight which is what I expected! I am normally size 13 men's shoe (US) so I got size 14 of this & it is great. Nice and tight. My toes are slightly scrunched. If you are buying climbing shoes for the first time, make sure to do rentals and talk to the pros first. I would have gotten the wrong size otherwise. Thumbs up! June 15, 2016 Great climbing shoes for indoor bouldering. The rubber is quality and rigid as it should be, my favorite part of this shoe is the heel, it is perfect for heel hooking. Climbing shoes are supposed to be snug and not have arch support, so keep that in mind when you buy. Great shoe! April 19, 2016 For a relatively new climber, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. They felt a little snug when I first put them on but after a day of indoor climbing, they were already loosened up to where they were comfortable. Now after a few weeks, they feel excellent. It is well worth spending a few extra dollars for the level of comfort. | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet |
Four Star Reviews: | 32% Work fine in the climbing gym and soles are holding up June 9, 2017 They run somewhat small lengthwise--much shorter than my same sized Madrock Phoenix. Lots of space widthwise in the forefoot. Work fine in the climbing gym and soles are holding up well so like any shoe is a about trade offs and I ... May 11, 2017 I'm a size 9 US and a size 10 fits perfectly, may be a bit loose if you were more of a veteran rock climber but for comfort I'd say 1 size up is prefect. The heel part doesn't conform as well when you stretch your toes but that's probably due to stiffer heel cup on this design. This stiffness does help in heel hooks though, so like any shoe is a about trade offs and I think this is a reasonable trade. Great First Climbing Shoe February 4, 2017 I got these as my first non-rental climbing shoe, and they've done well! They did stretch out a bit, and I wish I had gotten it down a size (even though they would have been TIGHT early on). The toe isn't aggressive, but that's expected - my next pair will be something else, but I'm glad I got these for my first set. a great cheap rock climbing shoe for beginners December 19, 2016 As others have said, a great cheap rock climbing shoe for beginners. I'm pretty new to climbing and these are great. They do wear down fast on the sides though, because there's just a small plastic coating there, but underneath it's just normal thick shoe material. but I don't think they're as good as the rental Evolve I was using June 7, 2016 these shoes are ok. I got them when I started climbing, but I don't think they're as good as the rental Evolve I was using. they're too flexible to really get a good hold on smaller foothold, and don't point your toe much. US and EU sizes don't agree, otherwise good neutral shoe January 29, 2016 It's a good shoe, though it looks rather cheap. I wear a US 12 / EU 47 street shoe - this shoe is marked US 13 / EU 47 to have an all-day fit (which is a frustrating notation issue).Buy one full men's size up, expect a basic comfortable shoe with decent grip, and enjoy. | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet |
Three Star Reviews: | 8% These are probably good shoes for beginners with normal size feet February 2, 2016 These are probably good shoes for beginners with normal size feet. I however have a size 15 foot and the size 15 in these was still way too tight. I suggest the Scarpa Men's Helix in size 15 for anyone looking for a more true to size fit in a climbing shoe. These are good training shoes October 28, 2015 These are good training shoes. They are comfy and easy to take on/off. The rubber on the heal is weaksauce. The edge on the toe-box is good enough and has lasted several months so far. SHOE FITS SMALL! Good shoe, bad experience with company June 29, 2015 Firstly, let me talk about sizing: ORDER AT LEAST 1.5 SIZE BIGGER THAN YOUR NORMAL SHOE SIZE.Now, the shoe is perfect for a beginner. I have had no problems with it whatsoever. I like the way they look and feel (once you get the right size).When I ordered these I ordered my normal shoe size. I could barely put my foot into it. I ordered another pair half a size bigger and they were painfully tight. I then ordered another pair that was 1.5 sizes bigger than my normal shoe and they fit great. But as I looked closely at them and discovered they had scuff marks and a black imprint of a heel and five little black toes on the inside of the shoes. So obviously these had been used by someone.So I ordered the final pair, in that same size and I saw that they have not been used. But what irks me is that they got the colors on the Velcro straps wrong. They put the straps for the orange shoe on my yellow shoe. Well actually 1 out of the 4 is yellow so they got 25%. I am going to keep them because I don't feel like bothering to order a fifth pair. Make sure your shoes are not used when you get them and that the dad-gum straps match your shoe. There's better cheaper shoes available January 11, 2015 These shoes are alright, I guess, but I don't think the heel design is very good. It feels like there's too much rubber back there, and I don't feel like I'm making great contact with the rock. Also, the bottom and the rand aren't connected very well, they started de-laminating almost immediately. Maybe exaggerated due to my sloppy footwork, but regardless, it's worse than other climbing shoes I've used. I prefer Mad Rock Drifter shoes, which are similar but I think the heel is much better. (Although, your mileage may vary, someone else I know who had the Drifters absolutely hated the heel.)The price is pretty good, and I like that they don't use synthetic material so they don't get too smelly. These are nothing like the original Flash July 25, 2014 These are nothing like the original Flash. My brother calls these my "Fisher Price Shoes." They do seem a little cheap, but they're comfortable. I moved on from using Mad Rock after the Flash left. | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet |
Two Star Reviews: | 6% Failures on multiple levels before they ever saw a wall... May 29, 2017 Well, yes, they fit small. However, that seems to be the rule. I wear a women's 7.5 in a KEEN shoe, 8 in a boot, and 38 in a pair of Five Fingers. So, after some absolute stupidity in sizing, styling, and pricing, I settled on these in a 39. A similar Mad Rock shoe in 41 was more comfortable in the toe box, but did not allow a great heel fit, and the leather upper at the toe box was just gape-y. (A "quasi-toe-do on my left foot didn't like the room in the 41 either!) Back to the 39's...The fit is great in the heel, toe curl is snug just to the point of being tolerable walking around the house. The leather upper has plenty of room for the toe curl.The first knuckles of the great toes were potential hot spots, but I never got that far, because the shoes were coming apart JUST WALKING AROUND THE HOUSE. I'm saying less than 30 minutes of non-climbing wear!The rubber and leather are separating at the top, the rubber is blistering in the heels, the rubber is de-colorizing (not that that is a HUGE deal), and the glue that is used to construct the hook-and-loop straps is failing so that the surfaces are sliding apart and sticky, slimy glue is oozing from between the layers of the strap.I had planned to tough out these shoes based on my beginner-level status and the price point of these shoes, but today's discovery of the glue sticking to my straps and fingers...deal breaker.As with most things, if you have crap gear, you'll have a crap experience, regardless of the activity. I would not recommend these shoes, even to a complete noob like myself. order >1 extra size up March 9, 2016 i know rock climbing shoes are supposed to be smaller than normal shoes, but ordered a full size up (9.5 normally) and couldn't get my foot inside. will try the 11s and report back.update1: tried the 11s...again, too small. in this case, my toes were pressed to the edge of tip and only comfortable when not standing. i'm not sure if this is how these types of shows should be worn, but i couldn't be satisfied with the fit. will try the 11.5s and report back.update2: tried the 11s...i feel like goldilox because they were too big! they felt comfortable at the toe, but the shoe now seems to be made for someone with fatter feet (i had to tighten the velco about 2cm beyond the edge just to make secure.at this point, i've given up on this brand. i have normal feet that fit well into all shoemakers. i couldn't find a fit here and i'm not sure why. I'm 9. 5 in my regular shoe, ordered ... January 17, 2016 I'm 9.5 in my regular shoe, ordered 9 and i can't wear them. 5 and they feel like they're size 7 June 28, 2015 I wear a 9.5 regular shoe. I wear a climbing shoe of size 8. I bought these in 8.5 and they feel like they're size 7. It's excruciating to wear. Blisters on my heels after two hours of wearing. Shoe fits extremely small. | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet |
One Star Reviews: | 4% Not very durable June 7, 2017 Wore a couple times in the gym and everything was fine. First time outside? The fabric on top tore. Too small - get a much bigger size than you think you need! February 14, 2016 Had to return because too small. | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet | 0% There are no reviews yet |
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Article Number | 0870559023979 | 0635983039077 | 0758576547282 | 0793661245223 | 0079366129694 |
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Brand | Mad Rock | Sukoa | 321 STRONG | Black Diamond | Black Diamond |
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ClothingSize | 13 D(M) US | - | - | - | - |
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Color | Orange/Black | Black & Orange | Chalk White | Lava | White |
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Currency | USD | USD | USD | USD | USD |
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Department | mens | - | Workout | Mens | unisex-adult |
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Formatted Price | $83.00 | - | - | - | - |
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Height | 196.8 in | 285.4 in | 78.7 in | 157.5 in | 393.7 in |
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Label | - | Shinzaro | 321 STRONG | Great Lakes MP | Great Lakes MP |
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Legal Disclaimer | - | - | Please enjoy our product responsibly, and only for its intended purpose. | - | - |
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Length | 511.8 in | 196.8 in | 334.6 in | 354.3 in | 118.1 in |
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Manufacturer | Mad Rock | Shinzaro | 321 STRONG | Great Lakes MP | Great Lakes MP |
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Model | Flash 2.0-M | - | - | BD651068LAVALG_1 | BD5504990000ALL1 |
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MPN | 430130 | SUKOA-CHALKB1 | 758576547282ALIFFBA | BD651068LAVALG_1 | BD5504990000ALL1 |
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Number of Items | 1 | - | - | - | - |
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Number of Parts | 430130 | SUKOA-CHALKB1 | 758576547282ALIFFBA | BD651068LAVALG_1 | BD5504990000ALL1 |
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Product Group | Shoes | Sports | Sports | Sports | Sports |
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Product Type | SHOES | SPORTING_GOODS | SPORTING_GOODS | OUTDOOR_RECREATION_PRODUCT | OUTDOOR_RECREATION_PRODUCT |
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Publisher | Mad Rock | Shinzaro | 321 STRONG | Great Lakes MP | Great Lakes MP |
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Quantity | 1 | - | 1 | 1 | 1 |
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Score | 8.4 | 8.4 | 9.8 | - | - |
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Size | 13 D(M) US | - | - | Large | 56g |
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Studio | Mad Rock | Shinzaro | 321 STRONG | Great Lakes MP | Great Lakes MP |
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Title | - | Sukoa Chalk Bag with Quick-Clip Belt and 2 Large Zippered Pockets | Refillable Chalk Ball with 65 Gram (2 .3 oz) Capacity , Comes Full | Black Diamond Momentum Harness, Lava, Large | Black Diamond 56g Chalk Block, 56g, White |
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Weight | 10.6 oz | 4.9 oz | 0.6 oz | 1.1 oz | 0.0 oz |
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Width | 275.6 in | 196.8 in | 206.7 in | 315.0 in | 315.0 in |
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Feature | All around performance 2-strap closure 3D molded hooking heel Tech Flex Upper/Polycarbonate Midsole/Leather Footbed Thickness: 1.8 mm midsole/3.8 mm sole /1.8 mm rand | Perfect for Rock Climbing, Weightlifting, Bouldering, Gymnastics and Crossfit. Comes with easy to use quick clip belt or clip to harnesses and carabiners with ease thanks to the 2 loops on the back. 2 Pockets for storing large valuables. Store your ID, keys, cards, Large phones easily (iPhone 7 Plus/Galaxy S8). Never miss an opportunity to capture those breath-taking moments. Large main compartment for chalk to accommodate big hands. Spend more time manoeuvring through difficult spots, not struggling out of tiny chalk bag pockets. Adjustable draw cord closure closes tight to prevent chalk spills. No more wasted weekends & money cleaning out the backseat. Premium Quality Water resistant material. Suitable for both Men and Women. Usable as a bike bag, fast mag tactical ammo pouch, pouch to hold nuts, nails and bolts when working on the family home. Backed up with our lifetime guarantee. Satisfaction or your money back. Order Now. | Includes non toxic , pigment free , fine powdered white chalk Premium grade cotton sock with drawstring is less messy than loose chalk Enhance your grip , keep your hands bone dry , and has no scent Increases friction dramatically , without chemical additives (drying agents) Comes in a recloseable zipper top bag | Patent-pending trakfit adjustment for easy leg loop Customization Bullhorn-shaped waist belt built using dual core construction Pre-threaded speed adjust waist belt buckle Four pressure-molded gear loops Adjustable rear elastic riser | Improves grip for better Climbing performance 56 g (2 oz) block can be broken down to fit your chalk bag Our White chalk is specifically Blended for Climbing to keep sweat at Bay |