Side by Side Comparison of: Coleman vs Wenzel

Great construction. The zipper has a 'shovel' type thing on the front to move fabric out of the way. It can still snag but is far less likely. I live in Florida so I don't need anything sub zero. But if the temperature dropped into the 30's I could use this. I would need layers but it would still work fine. The interior texture is very soft and feels nice to sleep in.

This bag is awesome!!!! Im 6'1" and 280lbs and its super wide and i can sleep in it comfortably. Not sure how someone taller would fair but it covers me all the way. I was apprehensive but this bag did not dissapoint!! The inside is slicker than most so you can turn very easily in it. This is the bag to choose! Obviously some of the reviewers complain about the size but come on now. Dont buy a bag out of ignorance and complain about it. If you want a super thin warm bag then spend 200-300 on a bag for backpacking. This is thick but very warm and for the price you get way more than you pay for. I would buy another and refer it to anyone! Well done Coleman! And another thing. No one gave me anything for this review. Its an honest review.

This is so soft and comfortable. I love it!! It kept me so warm at camp where I slept basically outdoors in a valley so it got pretty cold at night. It is truly a cold weather blanket, though. I slept in it on a warm night and I overheated big time. The zipper is big and doesn't get stuck and there is a pocket for a flashlight. One of my favorite features is the extra head area you get so that your pillow doesn't separate from the sleeping bag. It is also pretty long so there's good space for legs especially since I'm tall. This is an amazing sleeping bag, a must have!

Wow ! This is much nicer than I thought it would be at this price. I'm really pleased I chose this one..I once had an LL Bean sleeping bag that cost way more than this but was not in a position to spend that amount this time. And for a budget priced bag where you can't expect what you'd get from a very high priced sleeping bag I think this is not bad at all, It arrived in record speed too - just a couple of days...thank you Amazon. I must live near one of the distribution centers.I think all the Coleman sleeping bags are a good value for the price. But this one is I'd say one of their premium bags. It came in a Coleman box, inside the Amazon box. The packaging is excellent. The outer color of the bag is darker than the photo..somewhere between a charcoal grey and brown tone I'd say ,and I like the color even better than the picture. The lining is also better than I thought it would be. If I could describe the material it's sort of a thickish cottony feel /thin denim feel/texture - not bad alternative to flannel liners in higher priced brands of sleeping bags. I purchased this for when the nights turn cooler in Florida in February, but I just tested it out and am confident it's going to be warm enough. I'm a 5 ft 8 female and this bag is really a men's big and tall...but I got it because I do not like snug sleeping bags. It's huge and roomy for me which is what I wanted but It would definitely fit for a tall man.

Based on our first use, these bags were great! It was a rainy, cold night (40f) but we stayed cozy. I also love the roominess, most bags make me feel smothered. I think you would be hard-pressed to find a better bag at this price. If I'm listing any cons it would be that these bags are bulky, but I didn't buy them for backpacking. Part of the zipper looks plastic and I worry about longevity, but it seemed to work great.

I bought this sleeping bag and also the Coleman Sabine 20 Degree Sleeping Bag for the wife. No regrets for both. Both have the great scoop feature and are thick, soft and comforter-like cushy. The extra room is a must for anyone who moves around in their sleep. "Regular" size width bags always felt restrictive for me and I couldn't sleep well. If you are 6 feet or taller, I don't think you'll be able to cover your neck. Like the Sabine, the White Water bag is NOT water proof/repellent. I highly recommend laying down a tarp inside your tent. I also recommend a Wenzel Convoluted Camp Pad for extra comfort from rocks and tree roots that sometimes can't be avoided, especially in the Northwest campgrounds. The bag is thick. No sack but you can always buy one (on Amazon, of course!). Bungee chords help me roll it tight, but it's still thick and not recommended for backpacking. The inner material is soft and keeps me warm during cool and damp Northwest nights. The zippers work fine and overall quality seems very good. I would definitely buy both bags again. Thanks Amazon!

This is a great sleeping bag for not too cold weather. I don't think I would want to sleep in it below 40 degrees. It's light, rolls up into a compact roll and was quite comfortable to sleep in. Very pleased

Went camping last weekend and slept through temperatures ranging from 65-25F. I know this isn't meant for temperatures below 30, so I just wore more clothes to bed. I never got too hot and it kept me warm enough throughout the night. Its also comfortable and light weight. I didn't even attempt to put it back in the bag because the straps work just fine at keeping it rolled up.

Wow! Rated only for ten degrees warmer than the last bag I destroyed (caught a lightweight throw in the zipper, a no-no) volumetrically, this bag is virtually half the size and weight of the 20-degree job, and is fabulous value for a sleeping bag. Don't get me wrong, I love a good bag as much as the next guy, but $200 plus for a bag is a bit steep for a simple guy like me, and I like good value. This is it. If you're camping out of the trunk of a car or SUV, this bag's for you. On the other hand, if you're camping out of some RV, well, you're not really camping, anyway. If you're hiking the Appalachian trail, or some such, you might want to shell out the extra $200 for that North Face, after all...But if you're anything like me (highly unlikely, and consider yourself fortunate) you like good value, or as they say in slimy financial-circles: 'ROI'. Oh, and if 'The Little Woman' happens to throw you out on your ear, you'll love the comfort this bag provides, and as long as your winters aren't in North Dakota, hey, you'll be 'snug as a bug' in this...

I just took this sleeping bag up to science camp with my 5th graders and not only did this keep me warm in a chilly cabin, it was also thin enough to not overheat. It's a great sleeping bag and is of really great quality. The interior isn't really flannel but it is very soft and very comfortable to sleep in and the fabric does not stick to your skin if you get warm at night. The easy roll is just an added bonus.

COMFY!! My 6 & 7 year old boys looked forward to sleeping in these! They absolutely loved them. I used two as sheets for my air mattress, best sleep ever. I love the inside material of these sleeping bags.

I'll start off by saying that i didn't buy this for actual camping. I bought it so that I could wait in line overnight for tickets to Saturday Night Live (anyone who lives in NY knows that this is really the only way to get tix unless you know someone). I needed something that would keep me warm towards the end of the fall while also keeping me comfortable sleeping outside on the concrete sidewalk. This was great for that. The temperature was easily in the low thirties that night, and I wasn't cold at all. Most people on line around us were jealous of our warm sleeping bags while they sat shivering. Overall, I think this is a great sleeping bag, and I am going to keep it in case I decide to go camping in the future.

I am not a camper. I do not like camping. However, I was forced into going camping with my family and friends for a weekend at Disney. It was December and the weather was cool in the evening. This sleeping bag was extremely comfortable and wide enough for me to turn myself around without getting tangled. I was toasty warm both nights. I also like the fact that two sleeping bags can be zipped together to form one giant sleeping bag. We purchased two for this reason. I would recommend the sleeping bags for anyone who camps that doesn't care about how much room things take up. These would not be the type of sleeping bag I would take in a backpack, they take up far too much room. But for our family who drives to the campsites, it worked for us. I might even consider going camping again.

I bought the sleeping bag for a cabin trip and it was the perfect bag! It's very warm and has a little pocket for your phone near the opening. The zippers glide very easily and the head rest was perfect since I didn't bring a pillow. The width was very comfortable, I am able to maneuver around quite easily after zipping it up. The length was also good (I'm 5'8"), but I wouldn't recommend it if you are any taller than 5'11". The only downside of this sleeping is tieing it back up after you're done. It's hard to compress it into the original size and tugging the strings around did require some work. There's also no bag/cover that protects the sleeping bag, so do bring an extra cover/plastic bag to carry it around in.

I like this sleeping bag...for the price it's a great bag, good quality . Has a little pocket on the front top for a phone or other little valuable you want close. My only cons is that it doesn't come with a stuff sack, I understand this is a Coleman standard to just have the cord tie to keep bag rolled but this big bag due to its size in my opinion is hard to get a tight roll, and when you are camping and throwing stuff down to the ground to unpack the vehicle I prefer it not getting dirty. Also the inside is a little rough feeling to me, the fabric is similar to some fire retardant type of materials. I wish it were softer or fleece type lining. Luckily the first issue is easily solved by purchasing a stuff sack. I bought the Liberty Mountain Stuff Sack (X-Large/12 x 25-Inch) here on Amazon of course, Beyond those it is a good bag and since I got it on clearance here on Amazon for just over $30 it is worth it! It will definitely keep you warm!

Bought this to replace my "replacement" sleeping bag. The "replacement" was nice, but not wide enough at 31". Every time I rolled over, the whole bag came along for the ride, which was unacceptable for a decent nights sleep. I got this bag two days ago. I was rearin' to try it out, so my young son and I "camped out" in the living room last night.I like the extra 8" in width. That doesn't sound like a lot,but it is. I was able to roll left and right all night without the rest of the bag following me. (And I roll over a LOT when I sleep.) The interior of the bag was soft, but what I wouldn't characterize as a cotton-flannel lining. (Cotton, yes, Flannel, no. But it was soft and comfortable.) Not totally crazy with the outside shell, I'd prefer cotton since we are now summer campers, but I can't complain about that since I knew it going in.I am just about 6' fall, 280 pounds. Not exactly obese, but not svelte either. I fit in the bag nicely. I'd question the 6'4" claim because my feet did, sometimes hit the end of the bag, but that could have been because of bunching up.What I didn't like is the bag came with a strong smell of what I can only describe as plastic. This was probably because it came wrapped in shrink wrap in the box. Putting it outside on the line for a day cleared that up.In short, I like it, but I won't comment on the temperature rating since I was "camping out" in the living room. I would most likely recommend it.

I purchased this sleeping bag because I am 6'1" and over 240 lbs. I needed a sleeping bag warm enough to endure a 9-hour Black Friday concrete-campout in northern Wisconsin. We didn't have a particularly cold Thanksgiving this year by any means, but still, I was toasty warm while those around me were fighting over blankets and coffee.On particularly cold nights, I unzip it, turning it into a second comforter that I throw over my bed. It doesn't quite reach the length of the bed (a queen) from head to heel, but it still covers me entirely with a little shuffling around.I gave it 4 stars only because the zippers weren't aligned correctly when I got it, and I had to pull one of them off the end and re-thread it so that it zipped evenly instead of crookedly.I don't think 2 skinny people could fit into this thing comfortably. That isn't to say I don't think they could both FIT. Just... don't try it. Get your own bags.I honestly can't think of anything else you'd want to know.

My wife and I quit RVing this year, but soon discovered that we missed camping. After 30 years of RVing, we bought a tent and camping gear. We were looking for sleeping bags that were roomy and good for warm to cool temperatures.This bag met our needs very well. We have slept in them for about three weeks total. Our last trip was to the Washington coast. The weather was foggy, windy, and temperatures were in the 50-60 degree range (not much fun). The bag performed very well. We sleep on cots with a thin insulating pad and we were warm enough. The scoop design works well keeping the pillows in place. The bags are also machine washable, which is a plus in our minds. We have washed them and they came out in good shape. Also, the zippers worked easily and the bag rolled into a fairly compact size. There are cords attached to the bag the hook up quickly to keep the bag rolled up (nice feature).The only negative I have is that it might not keep you warm down in the 40 degree range. But in the 50-60 degrees and for indoor sleeping, the bag worked great. We are very happy with our choice. It was definitely worth the money.

This sleeping bag seems well made, comes with a nice stuff sack, and the two little "toggles" that help keep the bag aligned while you roll it up are a nice feature. It is comfortable and reasonably warm (though we've only used it camping in summer so far in the Pacific Northwest, with lows in the mid-40's. The reason I didn't give it five starts is that there is an annoying string sewn into the bottom of the bag (which you are supposed to wrap around the bag when it is rolled up to hold its shape), but it just got in the way and was a trip hazard as you are trying to get out of a tent. Not really needed, either, since to fit into the cover you have to compress and roll the bag much tighter than the strings would allow for. Anyway, cut that off, and the bag is fine.

Nice old school sleeping bag shape with new school warmth, & even fuzzy inside. It does take up much more room that a stuff sack type, but it was great for camp. My daughter stayed cozy on the Northern California coast, unlike the year before in a different bag.

These are pretty comfortable and held up in the wash quite well. The only downside was the length. I am 5"7 and I felt like this bag wasn't tall enough for me. Also, the material inside is a bit scratchy; however, I am hoping it will improve with time. Overall, a decent purchase at an inexpensive price.

My boyfriend and I purchased two of these for a trip to the Berkshires this week. The bags are soft, easily re-rolled into their bags, and easily connect to create one big sleeping bag! I have a particular issue with "microfiber" ish linings or fabrics that catch on your skin, but wearing socks while I slept completely remedied this issue. We slept comfortably in weather that ranged from 65-45 during the night. If kept me warm during the colder evening (40's) and I get cold easily! I highly recommend this bag for cool weather!

Only complaint was that in description it told me I was getting a 6'4" sleeping bag and I ended up getting a 5'11" one. Unfortunately wasn't going to flget it replaced in time for a canoe trip so sucked it up and used it. Now as a product it was great. I stayed very warm even though the temp dropped down to the 40s. Also there was a thunderstorm and water got in the tent, even though the outside of the sleeping bag got wet, the inside where I was stayed completely dry which is important. Great quality, great look, great buy.

Bought it for my son for his school outing. No complaints about the sleeping bag, but fitting it back in the case is a nightmare. It does come with nylon cords to tie it closed though. Thank goodness since there is no way that we are getting it back in the case.

These are nice and warm and comfy! Only Comoros that the zipper on one we bought started ripping out on the night of our first camping trip with them

The smell is horrible. Aired it out for two days and sprayed fresheners and still smells.

I used this in a tent on a night with temps from 50-35 degrees and was freezing in sweatpants, wool socks, wool hat and a North Face Denali fleece jacket. The size is wonderful for me at 5'9", but too short for my 6'3" husband. The quality is nice and the zipper moved very well. I will use it for summer camping, but I will be ordering a much higher quality bag for fall and spring camp outs.

So warm but impossible to roll up. Sleeping bags make me feel like I'm suffocating so I wanted this to keep me from hating camping. I am only 5ft 4 and 134lbs. I also knew that I could bring one of my babies into bed with me if they woke up in the tent cold. I had a cozy comfortable night sleep. But the problem is the bag doesn't roll up. It's so huge and the straps for holding the rolled up bag together can't manage it.So the huge bag takes up a ton of room in our vehicle.

We returned this item because it was too hard to carry. It is very warm, big and nice but we are new to hiking so really suffered when carrying it as a bundle. If you have a bag where you could put it, go for it.

I have not tried this yet but my initial assessment is ok. I knew the bag was going to be big and bulky but it is much more so than expected. It doesn't come with a bag, so I ended up buying a XL compression bag by ALPS. As for the bag itself, it is large and comfy. Others didn't like the feel of the inside but for the cost, I think its good. The best part of this bag is the zipper, it slides very well. I got it for $42 and it think it's worth so far.

Does the job, but it's not great for cold weather and I don't really like the way you have to roll it up to pack it back in the bag. I wish it was "stuff it in the bag" kind. The cord on my carrying pouch snapped after the 2nd time it was used, making it even more of a chore to pack this up.It's also not very small/compact when it's packed up in the carrying pouch so it takes up a lot of space.

I'm 5'11" male and it says it's for 5'11" and my shoulders where sticking out of this thing. And I could roll in this thing too tight. More for a child or a woman. We zipped two together and it helped with my wife but it put us on top of each other good for her bad for me.

Love the sleeping bag well made, a little problem with the zipper but not enough to cry about considering the price was at the sweet spot for a decent quality sleeping bad.

WARNING!!! THIS IS NOT THE SLEEPING BAG IN THE DESCRIPTION! This is the Coleman palmetto, the big and tall bag that fits up to 6ft 4in is a different bag. That being said, it fits up to 5ft 11in but I am 6ft 2in and it still fits comfortably and keeps you plenty warm so no need to return.

These came to me damaged in shipping so I sent them back. However I probably would have sent them back anyway since I didn't really like the fabric on the inside and they weren't quite long enough. Also from how thin they felt I doubt they would have actually been comfortable down to their rated temperature.

I bought this to take for a weekend camp that was indoors. It is a nice bag, but I do agree with the others who mentioned that it is easily snagged on the inside. It is a nice weight and is a good bag; however, I have serious issues with packing it up again once you take it out of the bag. Three of us tried to roll the bag up tight enough to get it back into the bag and never could get it tight enough to use the cords to hold it together and trying to squeeze the sleeping bag into the carrying bag is next to impossible! It is just too, too small for this bag. A friend of mine told me she got one of these for her son and that once it was washed, it would be easier to get it into the carry bag, so I decided to wash mine. That was a mistake! I washed it alone on the delicate cycle and then put it in the dryer on the low heat setting. I had to dry it a couple of cycles, but when I took the bag out of the dryer, I noticed several places where the it was ripped or melted and the stuffing is coming out. It shouldn't do that when it is done on the delicate cycle and the low heat setting. I feel as though I wasted my money since after using it for only 2 nights, it is torn.

the opening at the head is too big, makes my shoulders cold. also shorter than expected

Before purchasing this product I imagined that I can take it with me to go around different places (majorly my friends' dorms) and keep me warm. Primary failure of this product in my case is that it is almost unable to be compressed, and it's hard to carry it around without a suitcase, and it takes up all the spaces in the suitcase, which is even more disappointing.

Too short. Not 84 inches as advertised. Mine was 80 inches at best. Would be shorter if measured from the inside because the zipper would probably stop it an inch short of the overall length.

I wanted an over-sized sleeping bag for comfortable sleeping in cabins, trailers, sailboats, etc. This is definitely not it. I measured mine at 82" from the bottom to the top of the headrest/scoop. I'm 6' tall and had to press my toes into the bottom corners to be able to tuck the top end under my chin. I'd say if you're taller than about 5 feet, 8 inches you'll think this bag feels too short. Especially true because it's intended for use in "cool" weather.I like the headrest thing however it does orient the bag so the zipper is always on the sleepers right laying on your back. You can't turn it over and put the zipper on the other side This might matter when sleeping on a bunk along a wall or when the night stand is on the other side. The zipper plow works very well but it's only on the zipper that zips down, not on the zipper at the other end by your feet.The lining was okay. Not rough but not smooth either. Kind of like old, used up towels.

With my feet jammed into the end, my shoulders are popping out. I'm not sure what Coleman considers a "fit", but I'll have to bring along an extra blanket to cover the rest of me this weekend, or keep my legs bent while I sleep. Too late to return since the camping trip is tomorrow as I write this review, but I guess I'll keep it as a spare sleeping bag and look for something that fits properly before my next trip.

I chose this bag as the description was for a bag that would handle cooler weather and fit a taller person such as myself. Several of the reviews I read also led me to believe it would fit me (I am 6'4"). This bag is advertised as 30-50 degrees which I thought would make it perfect for what I do, this was not the case. The first trip out with it I experienced 40 to 50 degree nights and I was cold and miserable until my son showed up the next night with a comforter I could throw over the top of it. Only then was I warm in it. The baffle against the zipper is minimal and did very little to keep the breeze out. As far as being large, even though I had read reviews from people my size singing its praises, when my feet were all the way to the bottom of the bag the top only came up to just above my shoulders. Anyone experienced in camping knows you need a little space between your feet and the end of the bag to keep warm when it gets chilly, and you need the bag to come up under your chin at the very least. This bag turned out to be quite disappointing, I'll be shopping for a replacement and handing it down to the dog, he's quite a bit shorter and with his fur coat it will probably be a 30-50 degree bag for him. I really wanted to love this bag. On a positive note, I love the zipper system, it works flawlessly and the lining of the bag is very soft and comfy. Unfortunately everything else fell short. I'm pretty sure this is my last purchase of a Coleman product, too many disappointments.

Warm, well made, but the tricot fabric on the inside is 'tacky,' as in it sticks to my dry hands and feet....drives me nuts. I know, use (more...) lotion, but I'm going to return it on the account of the tricot fabric.

Just received the sleeping bag, it's very bulky and impossible to put it back to its bag. The zipper and fabric of the bag is weak, seems like it will break anytime. Will return and not recommended.

When i received it, it was nicely rolled, tightly in the sleeping bag bag it said it came in. It to quite a bit of effort to get it out of there as it was really tightly packed in there. When it came out finally, i was disappointed with how narrow this sleeping bag is. I am not a small woman, but i at least expected a decent sized sleeping bag. There is no way an average sized adult could slide into this comfortably. This is meant for those really skinny, and athletic types. I kept it because i needed the sleeping bag to sleep in the gym of the school for the sports team I was chaperoning. I use it opened all the way, as a blanket instead. If it weren't for the cots they gave the chaperones, my backside would have been cold through the night.Now this sleeping bag is warm, that i will give it. It does keep you plenty warm, and even too warm at points. The material on the outside is the usual plasticy material you see on sleeping bags. the inside is only slightly soft, with a plasticy feel as well. But you get what you pay for.Getting it back into the storage bag is nearly impossible. Once out it gets air inside of it, and doubles in size. If it weren't for the JROTC members at the school i was at, It would not have gotten back in there, and even then they broke open the zipper part of the storage bag just to get it in there.

Grandson Christmas Gift. The inside is awful! His PJ's stuck to the lining so he could not slide in.When I went to help my hands snagged the lining! I wish I had never bought this!

Many reviews mention the scratchy feel of the inside, this is somewhat present, but not a big deal in my opinion. Especially if you're actually camping in colder temperatures where you would be wearing clothing/socks/etc.My primary concern was that I purchased two bags to zip together and they do not zip together well at all. The zippers were EXTREMELY difficult to operate when combining the two bags and the proportions of the bags (at least as they applied to zipping the two bags together) were unbelievably off. Leaving a significant gap unzipped at the bottom-center of the bags, and one bag's zipper ending approximately 8 inches from the top of the second bag. They were so uneven that I got online to began the process of returning them within the hour.They seem like decent bags, but for my purposes I was shocked at the discrepancies in production between the two bags.

Save your money. This is a Coleman? They have slipped. The zipper is buckling all the way around and it's a cheap plastic zipper to boot. Unfortunately, my son is leaving for camp ASAP and we are stuck with it. I purchased it to replace a cheap Walmart one with a cheap zipper. If I had known the quality was going to be so poor, I would have just gotten another junk one from Walmart. I checked the label, You guessed it. Made in China. My young son says it's comfortable on the inside with soft fabric. So, that's a plus for as long as this lasts. What a waste of money. I hate thinking that someone worked for slave wages making this.

The color scheme is pleasing and decent outer material. A big problem I have with this sleeping bag is the liner which is made of crappy nylon material that's abrasive. If you have dry skin (very common in the Winter), the liner clings to your rough skin like crazy.

We own a few different styles of Coleman sleeping bags and all of them are plush and soft and cozy. I relied on the positive reviews before ordering this (our 6th Coleman sleeping bag). This bag arrived today and right out of the box, I felt the inside liner material and was shocked by the lack of quality in this bag. This liner is not cotton, it is some synthetic that is scratchy, abrasive and very thin material (blue). The inside material doesn't seem durable enough to withstand going through my washer and therefore I didn't even want to wash this bag for fear of the condition of the bag afterwards. It doesn't seem to be of the same quality I am accustomed to in a Coleman product and will go back. Very disappointing.

I ordered this as a gift and thought the gray/blue color would be perfect for the recipient. I received a very dark green. Also, I don't think it had the scoop to accommodate a pillow. I didn't unwrap it to see because I knew I would have to return it. Problem is I still need a sleeping bag. It is so frustrating when the description doesn't match the product!

Like other one star reviews state - the liner on this is a terrible slick plastic not the cotton advertised. Maybe it is only this way on some of the bags because I cannot imagine this would get a 4.5 star review if everyone got the bag I did. Good luck

Absolutely terrible sleeping bag. The zipper is an absolutely friggen disaster. I've never seen a worse zipper.Also, it just was NOT warm. At a 45-55 degree weather it was cold.I ended up returning it, and just purchasing this one instead:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G6HWBR6/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_42(which has a normal zipper that actually works as expected)

NOT as advertised.First of all, I'm 6'3" so when I buy a BIG AND TALL sleeping bag I expect it to be able to clear my head. Well, the lower portion of the sleeping bag didn't even clear my chin.Secondly, the inner lining is extremely uncomfortable. VERY scratchy and makes it really difficult to sleep.Returning.

Not happy with this sleeping bag at all. It is so slippery that it twisted around all night. Says it's easy to put back in the bag, NOT!!! Would love to send it back.....

I guess I didn't freeze to death in 60 degree weather but other than that I hate this bag. It's crazy bulky even for car camping. The material on the inside of this bag is horrible and clings to everything; grass, twigs, hair, dry hands, beards, etc. The stuff sack is a joke. I ordered three and ripped all three stuff sacks trying to remove the huge tag. Not that it mattered given that I need a 3-ton press to get the bags back in there even under ideal conditions.

I would give this a. minus star if available the zipper was obviously broken and quality was subpar. It was returned.

busted zipper wright out of the bag

There was a tear on this bag. So unacceptable for a new product.

broken after first use... and used indoor only.